Converting aftertouch to mod wheel

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:42 am

Hello gang,

More often than not I find myself changing mod wheel to aftertouch in most of my patches. It's just feels more natural to use aftertouch to me. Maybe because I'm coming from years of guitar. Anyway, does anyone know of a way to map aftertouch to mod wheel to save me some time?

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:04 am

i have no idea but i would like to do the same but with pitch

i guess no instrument gives you as much control as guitar does.

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:07 am

nevermind..

i guess you cant do this already with pitch.

anyways
wouldn't you just map what ever is assigned to your mod wheel to the after touch control?

nathannn · Post by **nathannn** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:10 am

why am i not being answered?
i have been waiting for 3 minuttes for an answer wtf?

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Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:35 am

what OS are you on? don't think its possible in Live by itself, you might be able to do this on your controller. Only problem is that Mod wheel is a MIDI CC and Aftertouch is a bit more than a CC. Some kind of MIDI translation doo-hickey will do it for you...like Bomes, MIDI Pipe, or Bidule.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:28 am

MIDI ox?

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:53 pm

nathannn wrote: wouldn't you just map what ever is assigned to your mod wheel to the after touch control?

Because it would be easier to be able to set up some sort of converter midi effect once than to change it every time I use a preset.

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:07 pm

You can set this up quite easily using PD

Here are a couple of PD patches I wrote (or drew?) for converting Channel After Touch into Controller messages. - You'll need MIDIYoke or equivalent to route MIDI between PD and Live.

This is the one I use most of the time:

>>>> touch2ctl1.pd <<<<

This one is more configurable and the test button is useful when setting up a MIDI mapping in Live. (assigning AT using MIDI learn is tricky because you can't send AT without first sending a Note On - could this be why Ableton have not implemented After Touch ???)

>>>> touch2ctl2.pd <<<<

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:33 am

crumhorn wrote:You can set this up quite easily using PD

Hm, I was hoping for a more elegant solution. I've never even heard of PD, but perhaps if I can't find another solution I'll take a hard look at it

To answer other people as to why I'd need it, I just purchased a VST (Alchemy) that doesn't respond to Afterouch, but does respond to MOD wheel.

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:53 am

Open up your midi controller and put the wires from the AT kb sensors onto the mod wheels wires. Voila!

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:46 am

zerocrossing wrote:
Hm, I was hoping for a more elegant solution. I've never even heard of PD, but perhaps if I can't find another solution I'll take a hard look at it

For info - PD is short for Pure Data and it's a freeware program that works a lot like MAX/MSP.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:42 am

crumhorn wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
Hm, I was hoping for a more elegant solution. I've never even heard of PD, but perhaps if I can't find another solution I'll take a hard look at it
For info - PD is short for Pure Data and it's a freeware program that works a lot like MAX/MSP.

Thanks! I gathered it was something like that. I'll have a look at it the next chance I get.

ben amato · Post by **ben amato** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:57 pm

just to report, i wanted to do the same thing and have happily achieved it with Bomes midi translator. Really brings the instrument to life to be able to use the aftertouch of the push in a meaningful way, in this case with wallander's wivi virtual wind instruments . The trumpet is awesome!

Converting aftertouch to mod wheel

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