Beat repeat is hard on me...

conny · Post by **conny** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:11 pm

I don't understand how the beta's Beta repeat works.
Most often it does not do anything to the sound or it shuts the sound off for me.
Someone has some good presets or tips?
// C

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:26 pm

experiencing the same here..
guess it takes some time to get used to this one..
I noticed it does not sound ok with long and or long timestretched samples..
Also not with long decayed bassdrums.. sounds muddy..
I also, sometimes, after twisting some knobs, don't have any sound.. must be some drastic function I touched without knowing..

Anyway.. I think, so far, this one is not able to do big hijacks on your beats as suppatrigga..
but then again; suppatrigga is far from subtle and controleable..
Beat repeater gives you a nice subtle touch, great concept!

Useing 2 of them in a chain is very interesting as well;
beatrepeatingtherepeatedbeat

or 3;
beatrepeatingthebeatrepeatedbeatrepeat

don't even know how 4 will sound...

ps.
maybe someone @ ableton can eleborate on why it's only able to downpitch?

conny · Post by **conny** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:33 pm

Poster wrote: why it's only able to downpitch?

I wonder that too. Hope it's just not because a up pitch will sound too bad because of the algos used..?

// C

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:03 am

I'm hoping that it'll grow on me, I must admit, I've still not got much out of the Grain delay either, I'm sure there are some wacky sounds inside that particular box.

I've had some nasty crashes with Beat Repeat actually, all of them when placing it into a live 4 created set, none of them repeatable unfortunately. Quite complex sets too, which is why i've not reported it yet. I'm trying to pin one down at the moment, i think PDC might have something to do with it.

Captain Screwbarb · Post by **Captain Screwbarb** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:22 am

I think you're supposed to use more than one Beat Repeat on a track. I've noticed that with only one I hear little to no effect...with two it gets more interesting, but I still have trouble controlling it.

Obineg · Post by **Obineg** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:30 am

beat repeat definetly grows on you , I've been using lucipher for similar stuff and this thing does similar things quite effortlessly . . . .

I have a suspicion that there is some bug still in it tho, it often seems to go mute, but I haven't checked it extensively yet . . .

The graphical display is not just for show, it's quite helpfull when you get into the settings . .

jbible · Post by **jbible** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:30 am

Im really digging beat repeat.
Your questions about the downpitch can be answered here but Mr Henke.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ght=repeat

anti-banausic · Post by **anti-banausic** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:26 am

Try changing from mix mode to ins mode, and you have to up the gain to max to hear the real effect. Try setting some variation (around 5) and set up some of the pitch.....

This will give you some really good aphex, squarepusher type stuff.

It also really works best when you have more than one loop playing, have a beat repeat on each with different offsets.

Also play with the filter (setting it to bandpass higher will give good results)

FWIW.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:25 am

anti-banausic wrote:It also really works best when you have more than one loop playing, have a beat repeat on each with different offsets.
FWIW.

that's nice; more than one loop, of the SAME loop..

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:46 am

Beat Repeat is really awesome once you get the hang of it.
I'm already building some presets, that go vey well with rhythmic operator patches

anti-banausic · Post by **anti-banausic** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:59 pm

There are two things that I feel immediately with beat repeat:

1) It is really awesome...I try to stay away from the pitch down madness because it sounds very....well, very not unique per se...but if you keep the repeats at a similar pitch and up the variation, you can get nice randomness in a track without having to program "randomness" into your drum clips or loops.

2) It has the possibility to be way overused, due in large part to how awesome it sounds and how simple it is to setup....There is the possibility we will be hearing it somewhere in commercial releases in the near future, and possibly everywhere.

my .02

conny · Post by **conny** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:27 pm

Thanks guys for all the good tips.
Beat Repeat may be awesome, and so are you

Now it's getting really hot in my kitchen/studio, I'll really have to go outside for a cold beer...

// C

JAMM · Post by **JAMM** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:31 pm

also having some problems here and constantly losing the effect when playing with it but i have to play with it some more to give a good opinion.

But....supertrigga still does the trick for me!

grtz Jamm