Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by stringtapper » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:27 pm

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by jcrystal » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:02 pm

Interesting, but quite pricey
stringtapper wrote:Wiretap Anywhere

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by H20nly » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:27 pm

jcrystal wrote:Interesting, but quite pricey
stringtapper wrote:Wiretap Anywhere

annnnd...

System Requirements
Macintosh

Mac OS X 10.5 to 10.6.8, PowerPC G5 processor or any Intel Mac. This is not compatible with OS X Lion, 10.7 or OS X Mountain Lion, 10.8

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by beats me » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:46 pm

ADSR has 5 hours of tutorials on the new Alchemy.

https://www.adsrcourses.com

Might be a good time to jump on the $0.99 first month subscription deal.

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by stringtapper » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:47 pm

Yeah, looking at it again it looks like they may have stopped development on it.

I beta tested it years ago and found it to be pretty powerful. You could bypass using ReWire altogether and get some complex routings going on between Live and Logic with a combination of WTA for audio and Max for MIDI.
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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by suhler » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:59 pm

Is there any way to load alchemy as a plug-in in ableton after having patched your logic pro x?

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by beats me » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:06 pm

suhler wrote:Is there any way to load alchemy as a plug-in in ableton after having patched your logic pro x?
Logic's Alchemy will only open in Logic.

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by suhler » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:27 pm

beats me wrote:
suhler wrote:Is there any way to load alchemy as a plug-in in ableton after having patched your logic pro x?
Logic's Alchemy will only open in Logic.
What a shame. But thx :)

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by beats me » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:41 pm

Logic’s filter is lacking and dated. I hope some Camel magic gets thrown in there as well.

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by H20nly » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:20 pm

stringtapper wrote:Yeah, looking at it again it looks like they may have stopped development on it.

I beta tested it years ago and found it to be pretty powerful. You could bypass using ReWire altogether and get some complex routings going on between Live and Logic with a combination of WTA for audio and Max for MIDI.
it does (did?) look pretty cool... i'm not sure if i could justify the price, but maybe. :idea: that could be what did them in.

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by broc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:20 pm

LFO8 wrote:For guys on a Mac and wanting to use Logic as a slave to Ableton. Just use Soundflower (free) to get the audio into Ableton and use the IAC Driver (already native to Mac) to route the midi from Ableton to Logic. That way you can use an External Instrument device (from Ableton) to get your Logic instruments into Ableton. Easy peasy.
Can you confirm that Soundflower works well on recent versions of Mac OS (10.9 or 10.10)?

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by broc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:12 pm

LFO8 wrote:I'm using it on 10.10.5 and it works fine.
Cool. Just tried it with success but I'm not sure about the latency.
What is your audio buffer in Live and the latency setting of external instrument?

PS
With a phase test I got instrument latency about 80ms (@512 samples audio buffer).
So Soundflower itself seems to use some big buffers.

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by broc » Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:08 pm

LFO8 wrote:I get about 13ms of latency on the External Instrument device, running a session at 44,1Khz and 256 samples buffer settings using an RME Babyface as output.
Interesting.
I've tested again with 256 samples buffer and still get latency on the external instrument much higher than 13ms.
And finally I even noticed that the latency may change if you just close and reopen the Live set.
So unfortunately, it seems not usable for me.

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by Machinesworking » Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:50 pm

I don't know how Sounflower is working for the rest of you? but it doesn't perform well as an aggregate device, I get crackles at any buffer size. :( I can set it up as an output in MainStage and Audio input in Live and it works fine however.

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Re: Alchemy now part of Logic Pro X

Post by Stromkraft » Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:54 pm

LFO8 wrote:I'm using it on 10.10.5 and it works fine.
Every time I use Soundflower on 10.9 I get massive distortion and dropouts. I'm not alone. It was wonderful on OS X 10.6.8.
Make some music!

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