Reading New Meters

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H20nly
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Reading New Meters

Post by H20nly » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:02 pm

I'm not at a Ableton enabled device; these new meters that show the "perceived volume". I'm assuming this is the portion of the meter displaying a 50% reduction in opacity. I'm curious, if you peak and go into the red does that occur at the lower/solid portion or is there some secondary indicator for "perceived clipping"??

The video only shows happy green bars below 0dbfs

Also, how does this really work; how is perception measured?



Edit: typo of=or 1st question
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kirillov
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Re: Reading New Meters

Post by kirillov » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:11 pm

for me I stil try to make the level meters work.
for some reason they are not displayed in my Push screen (also not the waveform)...
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Re: Reading New Meters

Post by esotericmetal » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:55 pm

The is no 'real' meter. Look up Peak vs. RMS. Peak is the actual values of the audio (what you would see as a waveform), whereas RMS is an average (easier to gauge overall loudness but fast transients may not show up due to being an average). Clipping in the peak meters means your audio is clipping.

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Re: Reading New Meters

Post by H20nly » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:41 pm

esotericmetal wrote:The is no 'real' meter. Look up Peak vs. RMS. Peak is the actual values of the audio (what you would see as a waveform), whereas RMS is an average (easier to gauge overall loudness but fast transients may not show up due to being an average). Clipping in the peak meters means your audio is clipping.
What I'm referring to is, immediately above the section titled "Great sounding analog-modeled filters", in the video here:

https://www.ableton.com/en/live/new-in- ... -5+release

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Re: Reading New Meters

Post by login » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:00 am

Peak is the dark green part and RMS the bright one.

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Re: Reading New Meters

Post by stringtapper » Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:22 am

login wrote:Peak is the dark green part and RMS the bright one.
^ That.
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Re: Reading New Meters

Post by H20nly » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:54 am

to put it in color; I was asking, is there a red bar and a light red... eh hem... pink bar?

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Re: Reading New Meters

Post by Tarekith » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:06 am

In order to keep this thread from becoming NSFW, let's not talk about pink bars, ok?

:lol:

Good question on what the RMS meter is actually showing H2Only, I'll see if I can find out more about that for you.

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