My Complaint With the Direction of Live.

Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
stringtapper
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Re: My Complaint With the Direction of Live.

Post by stringtapper » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:42 pm

Never fear. These guys have you covered:

http://csoundforlive.com

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mrgrim3
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Re: My Complaint With the Direction of Live.

Post by mrgrim3 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:59 pm

I think max4live will get better as time goes on

ive had a lot less crashes since updating from max 6 to max 7

probably how it doesn't work in rewire when ableton is slave mode is the most annoying thing I can think of but that's not really a problem with max4live I think but with rewire itself

bit high cpu usage too but I don't have the greatest cpu

I personally don't use it to its potential by making my own devices but I think it would be a good thing to learn for anyone who has it

stringtapper
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Re: My Complaint With the Direction of Live.

Post by stringtapper » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:40 pm

Angstrom wrote:I just think it's not the right solution.
Then define the problem.

(The point being that whatever you define it as, obviously Henke and Behles saw a different problem.)
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bwax
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Re: My Complaint With the Direction of Live.

Post by bwax » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:20 pm

2 cents

When I was on Live 32 bit, M4L was absolutely unusable. Constant crashes and slooooow behavior. Endless amounts of spinning beachballs on the mac. Upgraded to 64 bit... everything works fine.

Won't work for everybody's situation, I'm sure. But it may help somebody. Good luck.

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Re: My Complaint With the Direction of Live.

Post by doghouse » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:05 pm

sonik777 wrote:Seriously why haven't these been developed as native devices?
I hear Bitwig has an LFO device but do any other DAWs? How many standalone LFOs do you see in hardware (hint: none)?

I wouldn't call it a "must have" feature because I never had it until I upgraded to Suite and got M4L 8) I always just bought plugins or hardware with plenty of on board modulation like Absynth, Alchemy, DSI Evolver, dotcom modular.

Would I prefer a native LFO over the M4L one? Probably. But the M4L one is there and it works, so I'm good.

My guess is that the underlying architecture makes it difficult if not impossible to pass automation between native devices. But that's just a guess...
Angstrom wrote:Oh don't get me wrong. I know how to use it. I just think it's not the right solution.
Seems to me that being able to roll your own custom devices is a good thing. The programming of the devices isn't meant to be musical, how could it be?

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Re: My Complaint With the Direction of Live.

Post by pencilrocket » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:01 am

doghouse wrote: I hear Bitwig has an LFO device but do any other DAWs?
FL, Logic at least? There may be others too.
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