Live 9.5 crashes/issues

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Stromkraft
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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:12 am

lunch wrote:I'll try 9.6 beta this weekend. Not expecting much as the last 3 betas didn't fix my issues.
Well, they usually fix some problems and new ones are sometimes introduced. I've had 2 more major problems with 2 different plug-ins added in the betas this time around of which one is not present in the 9.5 release. No response to my reports either yet.

Overall though, I must say that Live betas are among the most stable betas I've tried in any category.
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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by jbone1313 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:37 am

Well, my issue appears to be solved. The apparent culprit was Elektron Overbridge 1.0. Once I upgraded to Overbridge 1.1, all my issues went away. To recap: I was having a lot of issues with Live hanging while running Max For Live devices. I was also having the issue where Live's process fails to terminate after closing Live. Based on that and some emails with Ableton, I am guessing Overbridge's audio magic was causing problems with Live.

Everything is stable now. :)

Also, Ableton support was very patient and thorough, and they did everything they could to help me. They looked at my crash reports, etc. Thanks Ableton support!

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by Stromkraft » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:44 am

jbone1313 wrote:Well, my issue appears to be solved. The apparent culprit was Elektron Overbridge 1.0. Once I upgraded to Overbridge 1.1, all my issues went away. To recap: I was having a lot of issues with Live hanging while running Max For Live devices. I was also having the issue where Live's process fails to terminate after closing Live. Based on that and some emails with Ableton, I am guessing Overbridge's audio magic was causing problems with Live.
This is very interesting as i just had problems when quitting and only then and only in one project. Was this when OverBridge was in active use in your projects? I still have 1.0 installed.
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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by jbone1313 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:12 am

Stromkraft wrote:Was this when OverBridge was in active use in your projects?
Nope. I was able to repro my issue with a very minimal project with only the Expression Control MFL device.
Stromkraft wrote:I still have 1.0 installed.
Highly recommend you upgrade.

I don't feel like typing everything out, but with Ableton Support's suggestions and my troubleshooting, I am extremely confident all other variables were eliminated. It makes a lot of sense, because some years ago on a different computer, I had a similar issue with another audio software which was conflicting with Ableton - even though it was not actively running.

I think such applications must be very careful when they have their own audio drivers or processes running in the background, which I think Overbridge does (even though you may not have an Overbridge plugin instantiated or even an Elektron device plugged in).

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by lunch » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:55 am

I tried the 9.6 beta last weekend, and it still has the same lockup and instability issues as every 9.5 version i have tried. No improvements. Sticking with 9.2.3.

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by lunch » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:58 am

Oh looks like there is a 9.6.2 beta, I'll try that one this weekend, but breath will not be held.

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:25 am

lunch wrote:Oh looks like there is a 9.6.2 beta, I'll try that one this weekend, but breath will not be held.
It's 9.6b2. That's a candidate for a 9.6.0 release, not a 9.6.2.
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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by lunch » Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:42 pm

Sure, 9.6b2. Just tested it, still doesn't work right. 9.2.3 is still the last reliable build.

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by Tarekith » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:08 pm

Can you be more specific, what are you having problems with?
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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by Guillermo Barrancos » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:12 pm

Had to go back to Beta 9.6 b1, as 9.6 b2 is terrible and unstable like hell! Same as current Live 9.5!

So I seriously hope this b2 isn't a release candidate!

If they going to release that as 9.6.0 live release I'm done with Ableton, return the Push 2 and ask for refund of my recent Suite upgrade.

I have no idea what's going on at Ableton HQ, but it almost feels like they have lost a lot of good developers or something. Can't explain this otherwise!
And then I'm not even talking about the shambles with the pad sensitivity of Push 2. /sigh

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by lunch » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:07 pm

Tarekith wrote:Can you be more specific, what are you having problems with?
Since 9.5 I have had issues with live locking up, becoming completely non-responsive when opening large samples or doing simple split edits (pressing ctrl+e).

To make this issue easy for the devs to reproduce, I have a set that was saved with 8.4.2 that 9.2.3 can open fine, but every variant of 9.5 or 9.6 that i have tried locks up while trying to open, 100% of the time. Live developers have this set, I have an open bug with them. The bug has been open for months. I update it every time I test a new beta.

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by Stromkraft » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:29 pm

lunch wrote: To make this issue easy for the devs to reproduce, I have a set that was saved with 8.4.2 that 9.2.3 can open fine, but every variant of 9.5 or 9.6 that i have tried locks up while trying to open, 100% of the time. Live developers have this set, I have an open bug with them. The bug has been open for months. I update it every time I test a new beta.
Please share it so others can contribute more data.
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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by ze2be » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:49 pm

Just checking by what you guys are reporting here.. Hmm, I think I will continue using 9.2.3 for a little while more.
Would love to try those new filters, but stability first.

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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by Tarekith » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:01 am

There's a ton of people running 9.5 with no issues too, don't let one post on a forum dissuade from you from what might otherwise work fine.
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Re: Live 9.5 crashes/issues

Post by ze2be » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:39 am

Tarekith wrote:There's a ton of people running 9.5 with no issues too, don't let one post on a forum dissuade from you from what might otherwise work fine.
Thanks Eric, I do listen to people like you, everyone should. However this is my main job so it aint a good idea unless it really is stable..

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