Ableton Link

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Ableton Link

Post by yentzee » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:38 am

Is it implemented already and if so is there a tutorial how to make it work?
If not when is it going to happen?

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by Tarekith » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:52 am

It's not out yet, coming soon is all we know.

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by dysanfel » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:17 pm

My collaborator and I are holding off writing our next project until this drops. I hope this isn't another "never gonna happen" like Ableton Share.
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Re: Ableton Link

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:44 pm

If it works as expected, this could be incredibly awesome.
But i won't jump on stage with this before 100 hours of tests....
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Re: Ableton Link

Post by dysanfel » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:07 pm

chapelier fou wrote:If it works as expected, this could be incredibly awesome.
But i won't jump on stage with this before 100 hours of tests....
Yup, I will use it for writing/composing for extensively before gigging.
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Re: Ableton Link

Post by c33 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:05 am

dysanfel wrote:I hope this isn't another "never gonna happen" like Ableton Share.
iOS developers have already put in work integrating Link into their apps, so it's definitely going to happen.

I love that Ableton's first official iOS venture is via a technology that's open to all music app developers and can even be used independently of Live. They're such a great company.

I'm very excited about Link and can't wait to try it!

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by Angstrom » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:18 am

Yeah there are BIG differences between this and Share.

Share was a system where Ableton were liable for the server space where hundreds of thousands of hours of uncompressed music could be uploaded and shared. I remember discussions with share like " who is liable for the copyright infringements here?"

Now if I was a betting man I'd say that copyright worries were the main reason Share was killed moments after birth. The Ableton lawyers said "Guys why are we getting urgent calls from EMI and BMG all of a sudden? Wait, you did WHAT!?"
Blam!
Share died. Fell down the stairs. No witnesses.

Meanwhile Link is a synchronisation method over a local network, and as far as I can tell nobody will be accused of ripping off the Marvin Gaye estate's implementation of asynchronous time code packet handling for multi client networks. Or whatever.

Anyway. This one is more like MIDI - useful and functional, where Share was more like Napster - sexy and doomed

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by Angstrom » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:15 pm

well well well...
9.5.1b2 Release Notes
Improvements and feature changes:

Introduced Link, a technology which keeps devices in sync when connected to the same network.
A 'Link' section has been added to the MIDI/Sync preferences tab.
Link and The Bridge prevent each other from starting once switched on.
Link and The Bridge both switch off External sync when activated.
Link, The Bridge and External Sync are not available when Live runs as a ReWire slave.

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by Twist EQ » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:46 pm

Angstrom wrote:well well well...
9.5.1b2 Release Notes
Improvements and feature changes:

Introduced Link, a technology which keeps devices in sync when connected to the same network.
A 'Link' section has been added to the MIDI/Sync preferences tab.
Link and The Bridge prevent each other from starting once switched on.
Link and The Bridge both switch off External sync when activated.
Link, The Bridge and External Sync are not available when Live runs as a ReWire slave.
Cool, I got excited when I received this email but then realised that most of us will have to wait untill the iOS support is in place though before using the beta so we can use our music apps with it! Unless you have live on a desktop and laptop ofcourse :)

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by Angstrom » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:48 pm

It also works with Friends™
;-)

Actually it made me think about updating my laptop again. I've been pondering it for ages, as I'm mainly a desktop person, but Link in the coffee-house meet up could be fun. Or a nightmarish cacophony. Yeah, probably that last one.

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by Eardrum Nibbler » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:05 pm

Downloaded and tested for 15 minutes now!!!
This is Killer!!

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:32 pm

No time to try this for a few days, but happy that it's out !
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Re: Ableton Link

Post by Twist EQ » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:41 pm

Angstrom wrote:It also works with Friends™
;-)

Actually it made me think about updating my laptop again. I've been pondering it for ages, as I'm mainly a desktop person, but Link in the coffee-house meet up could be fun. Or a nightmarish cacophony. Yeah, probably that last one.
Haha I wish I had friends who used ableton! (Or just friends :lol: )
I've been trying to get my mate onto ableton from logic for ages though and this might just do it if it works well!
Also, I went from a PC desktop set up to MacBook and havnt looked back, to be able to make tunes on the couch is good for us lazy people 8)

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by slatepipe » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:50 pm

Android? Windows phone? :x

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Re: Ableton Link

Post by yur2die4 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:16 pm

Android and Windows phone have such a wide variety of hardware that it's a nightmare to try to figure out the latency on all devices.

On top of that, there is a limited number of apps with flexible audio options, with the ability to do syncing with other apps on those platforms. Even if they implemented it, how many apps would people be able to use with it?

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