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Convert to MELODY ERROR

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:55 am
by miekwave
I have a monophonic audio recording.

a. Flat Tempo: Midi notes are spot on
b. Changing tempo of timeline: Midi notes are way off, as if it converted MIDI to another tempo, how do I fix this?





How do I enter exactly 87.35 BPM for bars 17-32 in the automation lane?

a. Bars 1-16 is 85.00 BPM
b. Bars 17-32 is 87.35 BPM
c. Bars 33-48 is 85.00 BPM

Automation lane I move the tempo and it moves between 87.10, 87.25, 87.40 how do I make it Exactly 87.35?!??!

Re: Convert to MELODY ERROR

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:43 am
by Stromkraft
miekwave wrote:I have a monophonic audio recording.

a. Flat Tempo: Midi notes are spot on
b. Changing tempo of timeline: Midi notes are way off, as if it converted MIDI to another tempo, how do I fix this?





How do I enter exactly 87.35 BPM for bars 17-32 in the automation lane?

a. Bars 1-16 is 85.00 BPM
b. Bars 17-32 is 87.35 BPM
c. Bars 33-48 is 85.00 BPM

Automation lane I move the tempo and it moves between 87.10, 87.25, 87.40 how do I make it Exactly 87.35?!??!
What is the actual tempo of the recording? Is this set up as a master tempo clip? This is in arrangement? Is your objective to follow the actual tempo in the original or is it to have those numbers applied no matter what?

Re: Convert to MELODY ERROR

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:09 am
by miekwave
Stromkraft wrote:
What is the actual tempo of the recording? Is this set up as a master tempo clip? This is in arrangement? Is your objective to follow the actual tempo in the original or is it to have those numbers applied no matter what?
The recording is (losely) 85.00 BPM. Master Tempo Wrapping 85PM only lines up bars 1-16, after thats its a mess. I split the master recording clip into 3 parts as described above. I just need to make a certain section an EXACT tempo so Beat 1 is exactly lined up back on bar 33. To make this happen I need to nudge an exact tempo value.

I can change bpm using Master track in Arrange view, but whenever I try to nudge the tempo up or down it does not let me hit the exact tempo I need to make bar 33 exactly 33:1:1.

How do you enter an exact value in automation lane????

Re: Convert to MELODY ERROR

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:34 am
by Stromkraft
miekwave wrote: How do you enter an exact value in automation lane????
Probably easiest with a MIDI controller. Have you tried this device?:
TEMPO - transition to any bpm (Max For Live device).
If you have a not fixed tempo in the recording you have generally two choices, either make Live follow the inherent tempo with using it as the tempo master, or warp section by section to a reference tempo. Warping will obviously change the experience of the recording.

Re: Convert to MELODY ERROR

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:35 pm
by ObtuseMoose
miekwave wrote:How do you enter an exact value in automation lane????
This article from the Help section of the Ableton site shows 3 different ways to do it.

How to set exact BPM values in the Arrangement View

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Moose