stringtapper wrote:Understanding intervals does not constitute "an advanced understanding.".
it does though....i'm not talking about it in a literal way, but in a deeper philosphical way....you begin to see that all of music is just intervals....you can call them major or minor or diminshed etc....but those are just names and labels.
They are, as shlomo said, the building blocks and pretty much any serious music theory text is going to introduce them before scales and chords.
Yes, one can "learn" scales in terms of their sounds and where they lie within a pattern on an instrument, but ultimately if one is going to truly understand the structure of scales then they will have to have a grasp of intervals. At the very least some texts introduce minor and major seconds concurrently with the major scale so that the student can understand how those intervals lie among consecutive pitches within the scale. So saying scales absolutely must come before everything doesn't hold water
yea i agree that there is no set way of learning it.....
but here's another website called musictheory.net that has the major scale as the first subject...then minor...then a few more.....then way below it it has INTERVALS......it doesnt appear to be in alphabetical order which would put I ntervals before S cales..........it just appears...that if one took this website seriously, that they would want you to learn scales first...specifically the Major.....and then some time after that...intervals.
AND THEN.....after that...we have the section on chords...now...you see why you have it backwards....unless you read pages from the bottom up.
hmmm here's another webste called http://www.essential-music-theory.com/m ... rvals.html
here's a weird quote...why would they say something liek this????? they must be wrong too like me right??? *facepalm*
Working out music intervals is easy once you know how, and this page tells you how! The key to working out intervals is to learn about them step-by-step. Having some knowledge of scales is essential and if you don't already know how to work out a major scale you need to learn. I am working on a page about scales at the moment so there will be a link here soon!
but this website says the opposite, so there doesnt seem to be any specific way
and to say one or the other is best is foolish....so im not going to argue...it's such a silly thing to argue about http://musictheoryblog.blogspot.ca/
How to study music theory
The first thing musicians should learn about music theory is notation: the staff, clefs, note names, rhythms, rests, intervals, meter and time signatures, key signatures, and dynamics.
The next things musicians should learn are scales and chords (harmony).
The next things to learn are melody, phrases, and musical forms.
If you have you learned all of the above then you will have a firm grasp of music theory.
and here on this website, it just lumps them together....
https://sollamusicacademy.org/programs/ ... mposition/
Language of Music
3rd to 5th grades
This class continues the Orff based Music Fundamentals Class Language of Music Level 1. Students will use the keyboard in order to interact musically with the concepts being taught.
This class will cover Major and Minor scales, all the intervals, Diatonic Triads, rhythm and meter, and Solfege, as well as the training of the ear. Improvisation and composition will continue to be an integral part of the curricula. The material covered will serve as preparation for the Theory Exam, for those enrolled in the MTAC Certificate of Merit.
Semester classes: 16 weekly classes
Location: SOL-LA Music Academy, 1812 Stanford Street, Santa Monica
so, the point is, just learn about both around the same time....learning one before the other....it may just even come down to personal learning style....learning both at once is defeintely a compromise...but i still think learning scales first is better.