Exporting tracks from Live- Bass sounds much different!

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Exporting tracks from Live- Bass sounds much different!

Post by johnnyburke » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:03 pm

Hi All,

I've been trying to master tracks in Ozone by exporting songs from Live( 24bit start to finish) where the bass track sounds fine through monitors and headphones, but sounds much louder when I playback the exported WAV file.

The bass track begins with light compression via Guitar rig, goes through an Ableton EQ, then a compressor at 3:1 ratio.

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Re: Exporting tracks from Live- Bass sounds much different!

Post by yur2die4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:40 pm

Is there a difference between the software or speakers that you listen to the wav with? Like, are you using a media player or something? Are you listening on monitors? Other speakers?

If you open the wav in Live with no fx, does it still not sound the same?

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Re: Exporting tracks from Live- Bass sounds much different!

Post by johnnyburke » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:53 pm

yur2die4 wrote:Is there a difference between the software or speakers that you listen to the wav with? Like, are you using a media player or something? Are you listening on monitors? Other speakers?

If you open the wav in Live with no fx, does it still not sound the same?
I opened it in the Windows media Player, first through Monitors ( M Audio BX-5), then through headphones (Sony MDR V6)

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Re: Exporting tracks from Live- Bass sounds much different!

Post by Shift Gorden » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:30 pm

yur2die4 wrote:Is there a difference between the software or speakers that you listen to the wav with? Like, are you using a media player or something? Are you listening on monitors? Other speakers?

If you open the wav in Live with no fx, does it still not sound the same?
I'm with you mate. I think this has everything to do with Windows Media Player.

Import your .wav back into Live and play it. Sounds like you got some EQ settings going on in WMP.

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Re: Exporting tracks from Live- Bass sounds much different!

Post by yur2die4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:31 pm

Your windows media player, and even Windows itself, might have audio enhancements turned on. These can change the sound of your music. depending on the effect, it can do a lott of word stuff, between spacial enhancement, weird EQ cuts, sometimes even reverbs.

You can find the settings somewhere in the media player usually, or on Windows of you go into sound preferences.

Thing is, these issues will also affect casual listeners the same way they've affected you. So the best way to deal with it is usually to find ways to mix/master tracks so they sound decent on all systems (not solely headphones and monitors).

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Re: Exporting tracks from Live- Bass sounds much different!

Post by yur2die4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:41 pm

The difference is. When you play audio in Live, through ASIO drivers, your sound is going directly out from the Master and to the speakers.

When you play in WMP, the sound is processed 'enhanced' or so they say, in WMP and then goes to the Windows sound processing, and may or may not be processed again.

Also, things like 'Loudness' buttons are bad news. They'll do weiiiird things to your music. Sometimes they'll crunch/squash the hell out of a busy section, or for quiet parts you'll notice it gets abruptly loud and very clear. It's a lot like using a limiter. So when you have a section that you think punches in an original piece, and it gets pushed through the Loudness enhancement, your track might seem to abruptly get dull if you don't have the preferred balance.

This is the curse of discovering pure audio. You'll get annoyed now whenever your friend has loudness and spacial enhancers on their tv :P. But you have to accept that most casual listeners have those when they listen to your music. You can't make a disclaimer on all your tracks asking them to turn it off haha

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