changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

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graphixsounds
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changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

Post by graphixsounds » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:34 am

is there anything like this for changing presets? so that an effect can change or morph depending on the scene or controlled by a program change or midi control msg? would be great for live performance,

thanks

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Re: changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

Post by Tagor » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:15 am

some vst do that with bankselect
omnisphere or lives native instruments do that not
some vsts make unwatetd noises if you change via bankselect

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Re: changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

Post by stuartm » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:58 am

Live's MIDI Clips support MIDI program changes as well as bank changes:
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/clip- ... ram-change

Now the key thing is:
your plug-in has to recognize those MIDI program changes.
Live's internal instruments and effects don't do that.
Some 3rd party plug-ins do (u-he, GFroce, NI etc.), check your plug-in manual.

For sending MIDI PC to an effect in Live is a bit tricky, see my thread here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=221041

For stuff not supporting MIDI PC, you can switch between chains:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=184758
It's not as efficient as using MIDI PC, since you have a plug-in instance for every presets/configuration.

Finally, there's always stuff like ClyphX or M4L to recall a certain status of an instrument/effect, but I've got no experience with that.

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Re: changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

Post by re:dream » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:16 am

Clyphx can take a 'snapshot' of parameters and store it in a clip. Triggering the clip resets the device to the desired parameters.

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Re: changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

Post by graphixsounds » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:05 pm

re:dream wrote:Clyphx can take a 'snapshot' of parameters and store it in a clip. Triggering the clip resets the device to the desired parameters.

this sounds interesting

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Re: changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

Post by graphixsounds » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:14 pm

can you use clyph x and touchable at the same time?

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Re: changing live session presets via scene change or midi ctrl?

Post by graphixsounds » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:44 pm

re:dream wrote:Clyphx can take a 'snapshot' of parameters and store it in a clip. Triggering the clip resets the device to the desired parameters.

does this work for audio unit plugins as well or only live's devices?

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