Fat Warm SOunding Bass Adivce needed

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Fat Warm SOunding Bass Adivce needed

Post by jrathkopf » Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:48 pm

whatup everyone....i am trzing to make some straight up hihop electro beats. problem is i have no go to bass sounds.i dont use sample loops. i want to make it on my own. whats your advice??

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Re: Fat Warm SOunding Bass Adivce needed

Post by sweetjesus » Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:46 pm

jrathkopf wrote:whatup everyone....i am trzing to make some straight up hihop electro beats. problem is i have no go to bass sounds.i dont use sample loops. i want to make it on my own. whats your advice??
many softsynth loving people disagree, but the hell with them, the best way to get nice bass sounds is via external hardware. You can get pretty nice sounds out of digital synths even, but analogue stuff will give you better results, quicker.

Also Live5 has a "Saturator" plugin which works great on bass, worth hanging out for.

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Post by olafmol » Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:08 pm

drumatic or DR008 or microtonic ...

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Post by sweetjesus » Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:43 pm

olafmol wrote:drumatic or DR008 or microtonic ...
bass or bassdrum?

if it's bassdrum then samples will be fine, just need the right ones and know how to treat them.

For hip hop, RM1V has awesome kick. I think the DR008 is from the same company, but I don't know if it has the same drum synthesis engine as the RM1V or not.

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Post by jrathkopf » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:06 pm

sorry..not bass drum. bass synth....i

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Post by suburbanbather » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:45 pm

I'll throw a blanket here for Reaktor5 8) Spend some time with Subharmonic and you got some good bass sounds to work with.

Also, in Simpler drop a straight sine, square, saw, or triangle tone that is somewhere around 30-80hz and tweak that lowpass filter.

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Post by ishimaru » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:52 pm

Everybody needs a SH101 (if your making some fat analolgue bass samples).


:twisted: BASS !
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Post by hat » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:03 pm

I've coaxed some wicked sounds from the Simpler presets, fat synth bass included. Hardware bound, i had a Korg MS2000 which, while not the best VA out there, had some of the best bass sounds.

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Post by suburbanbather » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:03 pm

ishimaru wrote:Everybody needs a SH101 (if your making some fat analolgue bass samples).


:twisted: BASS !
I'll second that. Got to play with one of those at used music gear store.

The thing that sucks about (vintage) analog gear is that it could go anymoment and then you got to spend more money on it to get it fixed.

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Post by AdamJay » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:04 am

Operator + Saturator (Live 5) is plenty warm and fat for me.

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Post by supster » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:19 am

i've had good bass sounds from a lot of vsts:

Reaktor: junatik, oki computer come to mind

spectrasonics atmosphere believe it or not .. and of course trilogy

imposcar is good

i normally run VST bass sounds thru psp vintagewarmer, bass preset, roll back on the drive until its just warm and fat, and tweak the hi/lo knobs to taste.

havent tried the new saturator in Live yet but im sure it probably gives a similar result ...
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Post by AdamJay » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:29 am

yea, reaktor, and you remind me of a great ensemble -
"Synth In A Box" from the Reaktor 4 User Library.

its a Synthi AKS emulation and it freaking rocks. certainly cable of some seriously heavy basslines. and by heavy i mean the kind of stuff a dub producer would light a spliff to.

and for FX to warm up any old bass sound - PSP MixPack, specifically MixSaturator.
MixBass is good for getting those subtle low end harmonics out, but MixSaturator has a bass expan knob that will give any weak sound balls.

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Post by 12micsn1 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:14 am

pick up trilogy

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Post by sweetjesus » Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:34 am

12micsn1 wrote:pick up trilogy
used to have trilogy.. the sounds were great compared to many things at the time, but personally I now hate the tones I used to get out of it. Extemely weird noise and high frequency weirndness going on in the bite/upper frequencies of the sounds.

Also within the context of a mix, they would easily drown out. My JP-8000 can make a ballsier bass sound which always cuts through, and yeah someone mentioned a 101.. these have amazing bass sounds, the only thing I use instead of that for analogue bass is Andromeda A6, but the 101 definately holds up.

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Post by montrealbreaks » Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:19 am

Native Instruments Pro-53. Very nice fat chunky thick soupy bass.

Otherwise, the cheapest real analog bass hardware machine is the Waldorf Pulse. Just don't buy one in the next couple of weeks on Ebay, you'll be bidding against me.

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