External arpegiators

[aklisiewicz]

I have never mastered Live arpegiator as it seems to somewhat counterintuitive.
I would like to hear an opinion on external arpegiators (i.e Arpology from Sample Logic or Cathulhu). Are those any better than the one in Live ?

Arthur

[Tagor]

Cthulhu is kind of more complicated then lives arp and offers much more options.
Alternatives offered by M4l. I use the VST-Internal Arp from Omnisphere, J74 and whats
interesting are things like Riff-Generators, Melodic Flow ect..

Better melodic building is also possible by Push Noterepeat used with scales.
Sounds often better and is more easy to get desired results.
So - whos is using Arps these days ?

[aklisiewicz]

I still use Atmosphere (which is predecessor or Omin-). Great plugin. I'm not usre if I should upgrade to new one, these days you can spent thousends on software...
I did not know that Omnisphere (I'm assuming you have ver2 right) has an arpegiator. Sounds interesting.

[Tagor]

yes^^

version 1 has also the arp, but without the octave-steps above the velos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYl3nd_9v5s

cthuluh i do not use anymore, had it on 2 tracks - i dont like the workflow, even when it
can sound very different to omnispheres arp.

[aklisiewicz]

are you saying Omnisphere APR is much better than CTHULHU ?

[doghouse]

Cthulu is a lot more than an arpeggiator...it's designed to generate chords and chord progressions, the arpeggiator is just a small part of it. If the OP thinks the native arpeggiator is "unintuitive" I can't imagine him dealing with Cthulu.

It might help if the OP could explain what he wants in an arpeggiator...does he need one that acts more like a step sequencer, allowing you to create your own patterns?

[Tagor]

no, it has ideed different/more options.

[aklisiewicz]

can you shed some light on what OP means ?

I wonder if any CATHULHU users can say they really benefit more from it than from other ARPs ?
I installed DEMO version but it has no guts. All presets are cut off so it is useless unless somebody already know how to use it. They should include at least 1-2 presets.


Art

[Tarekith]

Original Poster, i.e. the person who started the thread.

[Tagor]

can you shed some light on what OP means ?

I wonder if any CATHULHU users can say they really benefit more from it than from other ARPs ?
I installed DEMO version but it has no guts. All presets are cut off so it is useless unless somebody already know how to use it. They should include at least 1-2 presets.


Art

CTHULHU
https://www.xferrecords.com/products/cthulhu

beginner course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97wrfuvIOPo