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... have low-latency out-of-the-box with the laptop built-in soundcard?

Or is it still not enough and you still need to install Asio4All?

(If Win10 and/or a recent laptop allows to have low latency without Asio4All, I'd consider upgrading my system)

Anyone?

I think it's really going to depend on what soundcard come built into the laptop. There's a lot of variability there, so not too sure how much your question is going to help you I'm afraid.

I don't know what would have changed in the last few years where it'd be any different from before. Usually always requiring asio4all for built in cards at low latency.

I think it's really going to depend on what soundcard come built into the laptop. There's a lot of variability there, so not too sure how much your question is going to help you I'm afraid.

@Tarekith: it would help me a lot in fact I'm about to change my laptop, and if someone told me "I have a Dell model XYZ, and thanks to its audio chipset ABC-1234, the latency is now very good even without Asio4All", I would seriously look at this model (if it also meets my other criterias).

yur2die4 wrote:I don't know what would have changed in the last few years where it'd be any different from before. Usually always requiring asio4all for built in cards at low latency.

@yur2die4: There are some changes: Win10, Wasapi allowing lower latency (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... ency-audio) but it seems Ableton didn't support it a few months ago.

Also we could hope new audio chipsets have improved this since ... 12 years ago when I started using Asio4All.

Let me know if you come across anyone who goes with wasapi and is happy with it. In my experience it was no match for Asio or asio emulation. i think it was usually CPU intensive in my case.

I just tested it roughly for you on my thinkpad t470p:

on an avarage project Direct X needs around 688 samples buffer,
while Asio4All works with 250..

cheers

I doubt it. You would most likely need to download the ASIO4ALL driver as most built-in soundcards don't have ASIO drivers (I could be wrong here).

kirillov wrote:ut DirectX is not WASAPI, which for some reason can't be seen in Live, while I can use it in Bitwig.

right, thats why I tested it with directX for nc2010, because he asked for live performance with build in soundcard without asio4all.
cheers