Performance issues between 9.1.10 vs 9.7.4?

[lapieuvre]

I have an old computer running 9.1.10, Mac Mini server 2012 - quad core 16 gigs Ram, osx Mavericks

The only issue I have is that my laptop has version 9.7.4. I can't transfer my work from it to the mac mini. I am wondering if I'll encounter performances issues if I update to 9.7.4 on the mac mini...

thanks for your input

EDIT - Also when I want to change clip volumes in session view, in 9.1.10 it works fine, but in 9.7.4, the feature is broken. If I want to bring many clips up 2db, it doesn't work in 9.7.4, unless they all are at the same volume, but in 9.1.10, all the clips will raise all the clips by 2db no matter what the original volume was...

[Stromkraft]

I have an old computer running 9.1.10, Mac Mini server 2012 - quad core 16 gigs Ram, osx Mavericks

The only issue I have is that my laptop has version 9.7.4. I can't transfer my work from it to the mac mini. I am wondering if I'll encounter performances issues if I update to 9.7.4 on the mac mini...

thanks for your input

EDIT - Also when I want to change clip volumes in session view, in 9.1.10 it works fine, but in 9.7.4, the feature is broken. If I want to bring many clips up 2db, it doesn't work in 9.7.4, unless they all are at the same volume, but in 9.1.10, all the clips will raise all the clips by 2db no matter what the original volume was...

9.7.4 is more effective, so don't worry. Currently I'm using it on a MBP from 2009.

I can change the clip volume relatively in 3 selectively clips, so chances are you misinterpret what is happening.

[lapieuvre]

I can change the clip volume relatively in 3 selectively clips, so chances are you misinterpret what is happening.

It works in arrangement view, but not in session view. I would be very surprised the you can make it work, because I tried it on so many different computers and it never worked. If you bring down the clips by 3db, not all the clips will be brought down by 3 db. some will be more, some less. and if you don't hold cmd, then all the clips will resolve being the same volume.

Are you on PC? maybe it's a mac thing...

thanks btw for the answer

[jestermgee]

He mentions he's on a MBP 2009

Have you done a controlled test?

So what you are saying is that if you have a few clips and you select multiples of them and wish to raise the sample level by 2dB it will not work if all clips are at differing levels already?

What are some of the values before/after you make the change.

Live shows you in the bottom left the range between clips and the range being adjusted to.

I did a quick test (Live Beta 9.7.5b2) with a loop at 0, +2, +4, +6dB

I then selected all of these and increased the slider 2dB

I then see the loops: 2, 4, 6, 8dB

If you do the same test what do you get?

[Stromkraft]

I can change the clip volume relatively in 3 selectively clips, so chances are you misinterpret what is happening.

I would be very surprised the you can make it work, because I tried it on so many different computers and it never worked. If you bring down the clips by 3db, not all the clips will be brought down by 3 db. some will be more, some less. and if you don't hold cmd, then all the clips will resolve being the same volume.

Well, I see what you mean now. The changes are relative to original clip volume. So if one clip is -1dB and the other is 0dB and you raise the first to 0, then the other is 0.88dB.

I do not end up with the same clip level, however, if I don't hold down Cmd.

[lapieuvre]

Exactly, it messes up the gain structure.

I did the +2 test, it was fine, my clips started at 0,2,4,6 db and ended up 2,4,6,8 db.

Then starting from 0, 2, 4, 6 db, I did -2db. Results: -2, 0.40, 2.40, 4.40 db

I told live about this 2 years ago, nothing has been done about it.

[Stromkraft]

Exactly, it messes up the gain structure.

I did the +2 test, it was fine, my clips started at 0,2,4,6 db and ended up 2,4,6,8 db.

Then starting from 0, 2, 4, 6 db, I did -2db. Results: -2, 0.40, 2.40, 4.40 db

I told live about this 2 years ago, nothing has been done about it.

I think you mean Ableton. Didn't you get a response?

Those results are in conflict with mine as you could see. Are you saying this is always working for you in Arrangement view?

[lapieuvre]

I think you mean Ableton. Didn't you get a response?

Those results are in conflict with mine as you could see. Are you saying this is always working for you in Arrangement view?

Yes, they noticed the behavior, but I never saw an update about it

I never really used this in arrangement view, testing it the other day it worked, but today I have a wrong behavior: 1st clip is -4db, 2nd is 0db, I bring them down 6db, result: -10 and -3.94db

[Stromkraft]

I think you mean Ableton. Didn't you get a response?

Yes, they noticed the behavior, but I never saw an update about it

What does "noticed" mean here? No further contacts doesn't sound normal. If you have the report number you can reopen the case. Just respond to the last email concerning this.

Unless this is intentional — It's similar to how faders in the mixer work — then this must be regarded as a bug. Either it is intentional, or it isn't.

[lapieuvre]

I don't have the report number case anymore, but the answer was something like "i see that the volumes do not change equally, now they have a ratio" something i didn't completely understand...

I think i will open a new case

[[jur]]

I think i will open a new case

Sounds like a good idea