10 is announced!

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moscom_musik
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10 is announced!

Post by moscom_musik » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:06 am

And so far this looks like a really cool update!
See ableton's website.

Cannot wait!
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Re: 10 is announced!

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by Sarrova-Q » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:19 pm

Hope they finally fixed copy and paste from push when you try to copy a sequencer note together with all of it's automation data.

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by chapelier fou » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:41 pm

Some good stuff. I've seen no mention of typing exact values in automation ?
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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by chapelier fou » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:47 pm

Wow, Max for Live integrated to Live ! With access to audio outputs ! That's really a game changer. Does anybody know if the API calls timing has been improved ?
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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by Coupe70 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:56 pm

Really happy about this announcement.
Some more years with Live 9 and 32 bit for me without missing anything important :D
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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by Grill Pheiss » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:21 pm

Has scrollwheel zoom been implemented?

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by Richie Witch » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:25 pm

Coupe70 wrote:Really happy about this announcement.
Some more years with Live 9 and 32 bit for me without missing anything important :D
I can sympathize. I won't be upgrading to 64-bit until I can also upgrade to Win10, which means dumping the Mackie. But hope is on the horizon. I will have finished refurbishing the vintage Tascam mixer I bought by the end of the year and I'll be connecting it to a MOTU 8A. That will finally open up the upgrade path for me.

I didn't see any mention of which version of Live contains the new instruments.... will it be exclusive to Suite again? They specifically mention the Suite requirement for the new instrument packs and M4L integration, but nothing about Wavetable, Echo, Drum Buss, and Pedal.
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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by antic604 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:37 pm

Grill Pheiss wrote:Has scrollwheel zoom been implemented?
Yes! :)

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by Angstrom » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:39 pm

A lot of those workflow improvements will be really useful for me and the way I work. Slip editing in particular, and also that automation view might stop me fucking up my automation every 10 minutes! Those will fix lots of little issues for me.

But I'm surprised they didnt do the big thing in arranging which other DAW makers have added -arrangement segments which can be moved around, thats my big arranging problem. I want to try an a/b comparison on a "verse" or a mix chunk. All the other manufacturers have jumped on this, and its right up Abletons non-linear street but they skipped over it. Very weird.

The other disapointment is the browser. I see no point in "favourites" because groupings are contextual, whats my "best bass" for one track is the worst for another. What instruments go together on Friday night do not go together on Wednesday morning. That's why taxonomic filtering is important. But this MAJOR feature has been skipped over. That's just baffling to me.

All in all a good update, but my two big wishes being missed I'm not going to update on day one, because I will still struggle in the same two big ways. Finding my content and arranging it.

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by zeepster » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:50 pm

Happy to see 10 arriving soon but..

Sad not to see:
A better Browser. Live 8 was better and faster without the need for indexing. A simple Explorer based browser that allows everything Explorer does. Instead we are still restricted because of Push users.

A DJ/Performing mode that allows easy access to the browser and files like Traktor.

Dynamic EQ.

EQ with overlays from other instances to check clashing frequencies.

Advanced Spectrum with overlays for ideal frequency balance.

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by locojohn » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:54 pm

Angstrom wrote:A lot of those workflow improvements will be really useful for me and the way I work. Slip editing in particular, and also that automation view might stop me fucking up my automation every 10 minutes! Those will fix lots of little issues for me.
I absolutely and wholeheartedly agree! A possibility to move envelope point horizontally or vertically and snap it to grid is a blessing! Also fade in/out improvements, multiple MIDI clip editing, all these things making it sure I'll upgrade.

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by Djvariant » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:55 pm

Anyone know how much the upgrade from 9 will be?

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by MIAR » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:58 pm

2 things I was expecting as they are so missed in a Modern DAW:

Vocal Comping, Storing takes in new tracks if recording is looped.

Bouncing audio to new track (rather then having to realtime re sample it or export to re import.


Nothing on such features again?....

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Re: 10 is announced!

Post by ilia » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:00 pm

Angstrom wrote:A lot of those workflow improvements will be really useful for me and the way I work. Slip editing in particular, and also that automation view might stop me fucking up my automation every 10 minutes! Those will fix lots of little issues for me.

But I'm surprised they didnt do the big thing in arranging which other DAW makers have added -arrangement segments which can be moved around, thats my big arranging problem. I want to try an a/b comparison on a "verse" or a mix chunk. All the other manufacturers have jumped on this, and its right up Abletons non-linear street but they skipped over it. Very weird.
100% agreed.

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