acYm wrote:If switching a 0 to a 1 somewhere in the codebase is too complicated...
You gotta love the inanity that follows a new software release.
acYm wrote:If switching a 0 to a 1 somewhere in the codebase is too complicated...
Agreed.acYm wrote:Well, from what I can gather, there's no poly-aft in Live 10?
That's insanely pathetic.
What? Is this your take on the complexity of MIDI software development? If so, you have quite a bit of research to do. A few weeks of it. Because implementing PolyAT or MPE is not as simple as you seem to imagine.acYm wrote:
If switching a 0 to a 1 somewhere in the codebase is too complicated...
This comment is like a satire of the kind of comments I get from clients "well just change it! How hard can it be?"acYm wrote:Well, from what I can gather, there's no poly-aft in Live 10?
That's insanely pathetic.
If switching a 0 to a 1 somewhere in the codebase is too complicated... opening my wallet for this update will prove very problematic as well.
No doubt. It's like "Clients From Hell: DAW Edition."Angstrom wrote:This comment is like a satire of the kind of comments I get from clients "well just change it! How hard can it be?"
Consequently I actually find it funny. Probably because I'm losing my marbles.
I also want this, but that doesn't mean I go and insult Ableton team and whine as a 2 year old.
A somewhat lame excuse. We, your fellow users, deserve better and we're in this together. Rise to the occasion and just let Ableton know in a courteous way that you expect them to solve this one.dr_loop wrote: "No wonder, we whine as a 2-year-olds when we are treated like a 2-year-olds!"
The automation editing is actually not dead easy to solve, but other DAW makers have solved this I think successfully.dr_loop wrote: "*why* such a supposedly *easy* thing can be so difficult."
...well, I did. And finally gave up.A somewhat lame excuse. We, your fellow users, deserve better and we're in this together. Rise to the occasion and just let Ableton know in a courteous way that you expect them to solve this one.
... I never asked for the full monty, nor did many others.The automation editing is actually not dead easy to solve, but other DAW makers have solved this I think successfully.
Tell me about it! I wish they would have told us why they just wouldn't (won't) implement this. It's not as if it's something new either. It's dead old and there is more support than ever in instruments. Maybe PolyAT software instruments weren't so common when Live was conceived?dr_loop wrote:...well, I did. And finally gave up.A somewhat lame excuse. We, your fellow users, deserve better and we're in this together. Rise to the occasion and just let Ableton know in a courteous way that you expect them to solve this one.
... I never asked for the full monty, nor did many others.The automation editing is actually not dead easy to solve, but other DAW makers have solved this I think successfully.
I would have been happy if they'd gone at least a first step and allow PAT to pass through and thus allow at least basic MPE control.
This DAW is called Live after all.
In some respects it's just stuck in the Middle Ages of computer science.
They actually don't need each other to work, Poly Aftertouch and MPE that is; and you can do MPE control right now.dr_loop wrote:I would have been happy if they'd gone at least a first step and allow PAT to pass through and thus allow at least basic MPE control.
I haven't studied this in detail so you could be right. But as far I can remember these have always been around, since like the eighties. It could be as the beds are more expensive these models with PolyAT haven't been very popular and then it was treated by Ableton as if there weren't sufficient amounts to worry about.Machinesworking wrote:I don't think there was a single polyphonic aftertouch controller on the market.
While that certainly is hilarious doesn't this also give us some hope? Thin perhaps, but hope nevertheless. The alternative is horrendous.Angstrom wrote:I still think it's hilarious that Ableton have two main products which could be described as:
1: A super-integrated polyphonic-aftertouch controller
2: A DAW which does not support polyphonic-aftertouch.