Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by Stefan Jantschek » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:23 am

Angstrom wrote:Personally mine crashes on 3 out of 4 starts (when a Max device is present in the default). And I've had crashes and even BSODs on save or close
That will not be a common experience to all users, I equally can't derive an absolute from that, my experience is just one data point. But I can say it's obviously not 100% flawless and does still crash for some users. It probably is more stable, but I the crashing skews my personal perspective.

Each user should see how it performs for them.
Sorry to hear that.
I also use Conv.Reverb in my default set, loads of M4L, and for my personal taste still terrible amounts of nestings.
No issues for long time here, exept the Win HDPI suffer.
Thankfully solved now.
But, as you said, each user makes different experiences, and that is where the hard work starts.

It´s the ignorance i am taking about.
This specific user wants a load of new features, rock solid performance and a minimal (update) price.
If we are lucky, we can choose two of them, but never three.
With one of the mentioned we all have to pay.
Don´t wanna pay for stability?
And how do we get there when nobody wants to pay?
:roll:

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by sowhoso » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:00 pm

Stefan Jantschek wrote:how do we get there when nobody wants to pay?
:roll:
people don't mind paying. I will gladly pay

But, my upgrade from 8 to 9, which was a seriously major upgrade, was $112 USD

This "minor" upgrade from 9 to 10 is $229. I guess something has gone awry at Ableton and they need the $$$

if I was wealthy I probably wouldn't give a shit, but...

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by Mark Williams » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:29 pm

sowhoso wrote:
Stefan Jantschek wrote:how do we get there when nobody wants to pay?
:roll:
people don't mind paying. I will gladly pay

But, my upgrade from 8 to 9, which was a seriously major upgrade, was $112 USD

This "minor" upgrade from 9 to 10 is $229. I guess something has gone awry at Ableton and they need the $$$

if I was wealthy I probably wouldn't give a shit, but...
"minor" upgrade. You can pay more for 1 plugin sometimes, let alone get Wavetable, pedal, echo, Drum Bus, group within group, multi midi editing without mentioning the great new packs or the additional Push functionality.
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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by spagbol » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:43 pm

Im just really happy its being released on my birthday....i mean, thats a great unexpected birthday pressi. Thanks Ableton, ill take the hint and get busy.....
...not having a mid-life crisis....just don't give a fuck about shit i don't give a fuck about anymore.....

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by McAnix » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:33 pm

Melodic sequencer on Push! so sick!

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by spanktron » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:13 pm

Tuur wrote:
Stefan Jantschek wrote:It´s a sad sign of time that for many users this is considered to be self evident.
I had not a single crash during the whole beta phase.
Today, the risk of a broken string onstage is higher than a crash with Ableton.
Think about it for a while...
As a coder I appreciate the hard work that goes into this, but stability should not be a bullet point for any tool you have to pay for.

Or am I missing your point?

I had 2 crashes today in 10 Beta on a not so much Cpu heavy project ......

I will take the broken string instrument now please... :-)

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by Stefan Jantschek » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:56 am

spanktron wrote: I had 2 crashes today in 10 Beta on a not so much Cpu heavy project ......
I will take the broken string instrument now please... :-)
Yepp.
We have the choice.
Pick two out of three:
- fix the string
- rethink your style
- see how far you get with only one string left
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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by Tarekith » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:14 am

- there is no string. :)

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by Stefan Jantschek » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:31 am

EEEEH DEEJAY!
Now stop playing Music where the Guitarist`s on Holiday!!

(Yepp. OT...)

Cheers!

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by dna598 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:04 pm

I don't need the stuff that falls into the "worth paying for" category, such as the synth and fx.

I do need all the stuff that's already available in other daws that leaves me wondering why i'm going pay up, such as midi capture, the midi note pickup thing, and autonaming.
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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by pureleton » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:53 pm

I'm still with L8 and i5 cpu w7 8)
Btw good luck with L10 if it has the same high cpu use like L9.

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by braduro » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:41 pm

Capture. Hands down.

Sure there's more music to be made with the other features. But this really takes a load off for what is a very real phenomenon, where rehearsing something has all the intended feel. And then when you go to record you realize something about the performance has changed. Or perhaps one practice pass will have the most feel and spontaneity that you could ever hope to achieve. Now guess what? it's already there waiting to be utilized.

I'll probably have to prioritize some clip scrub and start end marker controls, as Capture still takes liberties as to how far back it thinks this latest idea should go in the clip.

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by ian_halsall » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:15 pm

I won't upgrade.

The simpler improvements in 9.5 are good.

The rest (wavetable synth (sounds rubbish compared to massive and razor)), a few colours in the browser and the ability to copy project files with versions (yawn) and a drum equaliser are weak.

I would probably have bought it if they listened to us and made all instruments vertically expandable (drum rack editing is a chore) and automation editable by typing in a number into a pop-up instead of fucking around with the mouse trying to get 65 when it only wants to do 67 or 64.

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by Martin Gifford » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:44 am

ian_halsall wrote:The rest (wavetable synth (sounds rubbish compared to massive and razor)), a few colours in the browser and the ability to copy project files with versions (yawn) and a drum equaliser are weak.

....automation editable by typing in a number into a pop-up instead of fucking around with the mouse trying to get 65 when it only wants to do 67 or 64.
There are like 100 more improvements than what you have noted.

IIRC, modifier keys (shift, alt, or ctrl) might make it easy to move in smaller increments to 65 or whatever.

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Re: Ableton Live 10 - whats your favourite new features?

Post by v00d00ppl » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:45 am

Drum buss= you get three different overdrive circuits, transient boosts, it’s a Swiss Army knife for your drums .


Wavetable is cool especially the look in Push 2. It makes me want to tweak away with all the visual feedback.
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