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Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
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Post by cartel00 » Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:05 am

how are you guys who do not use reason laying drum patters down?

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Post by disco45 » Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:47 am

I think Reason will give a fantastic and quick understanding of the total studio environment and enable you to make great music very quickly...

...but ultimately Live you give you more creative options....

so get both and have a great time....

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Post by chagos » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:05 am

battery and stylus.

since you'll have Live, either of them would be good choices for your drum programming.

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Post by sp0bjogu » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:34 am

Impulse, which is bundled with Live.


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Post by cartel00 » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:38 am

impulse can work as a drum machine/ drum pattern device? If so then I should defintely get Live and forget about Reasons Redrum

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Post by Michael-SW » Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:51 pm

Impulse IS a drum machine, but you program the patterns in a midi clip.

But there are tons of more sophisticated drum VSTs out there, some with their own pattern sequencers.

Battery doesn't have it's own pattern sequencer either, but I belive Stylus RMX has.

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Post by bytheriver » Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:08 pm

Battery comes with a huge number of drum kits and samples, where as impluse doesn't.

I use impulse quite often with samples loaded from DVD's on the front of future music or computer music. They often bundle a load of single hit bass drums on the front of a cover disk, or whole kits.

My main drum machine though is an external roland MC307, which I program in a midi clip and send, then record the audio as it comes in. Thats the kind of thing live will do and reason wont.

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Post by SonnyBonnier » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:27 pm

Get Live, and some good VST:s. The synthesizers in reason are complete wack. Propellerheads even had to invent the "Combinator" to get som decent sounds out of them.

Get Live, some NI VST:s and soundbanks, maybe Trilogy or impOSCar and you´re rolling. It´ll cost you a few bucks, but it´s worth it .

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Post by divonic » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:10 pm

There are tons of free VSTs on the internet.

I like Reason. A freind of mine has it. but I don't like the sequencer on it. Some people absoultly love it. and it can make some good sounds.

Live is my sequencer for my studio (using both hardware and software) Reason is cool and all but I feel that it should be used in combination with other sound sources. (just like I wouldn't want to hear an album made all on a Yamaha RM1X, or just on a Korg EM-1) Variety is the spice of live. (to coin a phrase :D )

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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:34 pm

Get Live 5 and Reaktor 5 and don't look back.

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Post by telekom » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:50 pm

Like the man said, try the demos, you'll quickly find what you love and hate about both Live and Reason. :)

I love em both, they work a treat together. If you wanna record audio get Live 5 and maybe start out with some free or cheap vsts. Computer music magazine has a whole sequencer package (which I hate) on it's coverdisk which comes with a few vsts such as a 303 emulator, drum module, etc. Try them out to get a feel for the Live/Vst connection... without having to shell out for costly vsts you can pick up later if you want to.

But Reason is fab as well. You're spolied for choice ! Test em out before you spend and have fun.

Yeah Kruder and Dorfmeister are great. Get in there and make some great music Cartel00...
MacBook Pro Retina, Live 9.5, Reason, UC33, KRK RP5s, Teenage Engineering OP1, Korg ESX2, Korg Prophecy, Clavia Nord Lead, Bass, Guitars.

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Post by cartel00 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:58 pm

I apprecaite all the input guys. I will take all the advice given and just go ahead and play around with the demos. Thanks everyone again. And telecom Ill try my best to achieve what K & D did. Thanks.

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