Korg micro and Kontrol 49 users keep the faith !
Korg micro and Kontrol 49 users keep the faith !
Changing for the second time.
Last edited by rikhyray on Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:53 am, edited 2 times in total.
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I'm on the fence about the Kontrol 49 myself. If it had native mode it would be an easier decison. If it came with a free Kaoss Pad I'd buy 10.
It seems cool, but I gotta say, those faders just don't feel nice. They seem like some of the cheapest faders they could've put on there. I guess it was to keep the cost of the unit down. I am not a good judge of drum pads, so I can't tell how they stack up to other pads.
BUT, the design is cool, and boy do I ever need assignable knobs. I'm a sucker for blinky lights, and it's got a lightshow to rival any controler keyboard!
It seems cool, but I gotta say, those faders just don't feel nice. They seem like some of the cheapest faders they could've put on there. I guess it was to keep the cost of the unit down. I am not a good judge of drum pads, so I can't tell how they stack up to other pads.
BUT, the design is cool, and boy do I ever need assignable knobs. I'm a sucker for blinky lights, and it's got a lightshow to rival any controler keyboard!
Well, you all know I definitely want it in
Here's the original quote from Robert:
cheers and thakyou for leaving your opinion.
Here's the original quote from Robert:
I agree this thread shoud have been created in the whishlist forum, but admittedly it will get more views/make more fuzz here...I do not know yet which surfaces in which order we will support and when. Each of them needs some individual work to be done and there are quite a lot of different models out there. I would suggest you create a wishlist thread (or add your wish to an exisitng one with this topic) The more people demand a specific controler the more likely we will give it a higher priority.
Robert Henke / Ableton
cheers and thakyou for leaving your opinion.
PLEASE. reason is so much fun to play with due to it's Native Mode support. i dunno how it would work for a host with vsti, but it totally rocks for Reason.
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RePeter... Do a little search of the forum for "Kontrol 49" and you will find long threads where the native mode is discussed ad-nausem.
In short, it's a protocol for the Korg microkontrol and kontrol 49 that the software developers have to code their software to utilize... Propellorheads have it for Reason. Native mode will sync the controller with the software so as you navigate around the software- the controller will follow you... so you highlight a track with Impulse on it and the Kontrol 49 maps out the instant you click on the track, then 5 seconds later you click on another track with simpler and some effects and boom the knobs and sliders are now ready to control a completely different set of tasks, and you can do stuff on the fly and not have to worry about midi mapping everything.
At least, I think this is what Native is about...
In short, it's a protocol for the Korg microkontrol and kontrol 49 that the software developers have to code their software to utilize... Propellorheads have it for Reason. Native mode will sync the controller with the software so as you navigate around the software- the controller will follow you... so you highlight a track with Impulse on it and the Kontrol 49 maps out the instant you click on the track, then 5 seconds later you click on another track with simpler and some effects and boom the knobs and sliders are now ready to control a completely different set of tasks, and you can do stuff on the fly and not have to worry about midi mapping everything.
At least, I think this is what Native is about...
ReMote
Ableton should implement ReMote technology from Propellerhead which is also included in Reason3. It's the best way for controllers, no doubt about it. It will soon be as 'normal' as ReWire for example.
check: http://www.propellerheads.se/technologi ... =mainframe
check: http://www.propellerheads.se/technologi ... =mainframe
Re: ReMote
yeah, the implementation in Reason 3 is awesome, however I do get the feeling that "implementing" ReMote means "paying up big-time". I could be wrong though.raapie wrote:Ableton should implement ReMote technology from Propellerhead which is also included in Reason3. It's the best way for controllers, no doubt about it. It will soon be as 'normal' as ReWire for example.
here are the tech bits for ReMote, btw;;
http://www.propellerheads.se/technologi ... &nc=377789
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I vote YES, please Abletons, implement 'native mode'. It is a fantastic way of working, I know from Reason 3.0 and Korg Legacy Collection.
It adds soooo much to the workflow.
J*
It adds soooo much to the workflow.
J*
Why the change of subject here?
Come on guys, leave the software design issues to the Ableton wizards.
I'm sure they will not 'hack-in' any device support. The Propellerheads are very good in promoting their subsystems (ReMote, ReLoad, ReFilll), even when no-one except they themselfes can benefit from it. The Abe's are more silent in this area, but I'm sure they will combine their efforts to have a mackie-control support sub-system with Korg's 'native mode' support.
Stick to topics request: Yea or Nea on the subject of native mode support in Live.
Cheers,
J*
Come on guys, leave the software design issues to the Ableton wizards.
I'm sure they will not 'hack-in' any device support. The Propellerheads are very good in promoting their subsystems (ReMote, ReLoad, ReFilll), even when no-one except they themselfes can benefit from it. The Abe's are more silent in this area, but I'm sure they will combine their efforts to have a mackie-control support sub-system with Korg's 'native mode' support.
Stick to topics request: Yea or Nea on the subject of native mode support in Live.
Cheers,
J*