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 Post subject: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:18 pm 

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Hiya people,
Just upgraded to Live 10. Am I going crazy or has the built in lessons list at the bottom of the help view disappeared? Cant find them anymore; anyone else have the same issue?

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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:49 pm 

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It is still in the bottom left for me! (click at the > symbol so it will show up)


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:55 am 

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Hi,
thanks for the reply but I think that is the 'info' view. I'm referring to the help view when you click on help view from the top of the screen and a column appears on the right with stuff like 'A tour of Live' etc. I would attach a screen shot but can't work out how to attach one to a post on this forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:53 pm 

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Echolalia wrote:
Hi,
thanks for the reply but I think that is the 'info' view. I'm referring to the help view when you click on help view from the top of the screen and a column appears on the right with stuff like 'A tour of Live' etc. I would attach a screen shot but can't work out how to attach one to a post on this forum.



I still see the lessons View. However I think they might have got rid of a whole bunch of lessons. I can’t find the midi controller reference anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:12 am 

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it seems that you can only open the Lesson view from the Help menu now...

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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:50 pm 
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Hi there,

The missing lessons are coming back with the next update. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:28 pm 

Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:08 pm
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Location: Dunstable
Here's some details if you don't want to wait for the next version of Live....

In Live 10 (as of 10.0.2b4), the ClyphX Pro Lessons category will not show up by default. This is due
to the lessons structure not being completed as of yet in Live 10. You can workaround this by
modifying a file within Live. Once you modify this file, you'll access the ClyphX Pro Lessons by
clicking on Packs at the home page in Help View. Note, however, that this doesn't resolve another bug
where the formatting of text within lessons is not handled properly thus making the text a bit more
difficult to read.

At any rate, here's how to apply the workaround:

– On Windows, go to:

ProgramData\Ableton\Live 10\Resources\Builtin Lessons\TableOfContents\DefaultToc Lessons

– On OS X, go to Applications, find the Live 10 app, Control-click or right click on it and select

Show Package Contents. Then go to:

Contents/App-Resources/Builtin Lessons/TableOfContents/DefaultToc Lessons

Within that folder, find the Lessonsxx.txt file corresponding to your language. For example, for English, you'll use the LessonsEN.txt file. Within that file, find the line that reads:

$Link Packs.png <Lesson:Internal/AutoToc>

Change that line to:

$Link Packs.png <Lesson:Internal/BuiltinAutoToc>

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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:37 pm 

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S4racen wrote:

$Link Packs.png <Lesson:Internal/BuiltinAutoToc>


I still have Live 9 Suite installed, and would like to access all the lessons in the 'C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 9 Suite\Resources\Builtin Lessons'
ANy ideas on how to accomplish this inside Live 10?

I tried a few hacks without any luck.

I guess i could always just launch live 9 , lol. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:00 pm 

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I didn't know that there was built in lessons! Well, I guess there is always the good ol' youtube..


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:25 pm 

Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:14 pm
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S4racen wrote:
Here's some details if you don't want to wait for the next version of Live....

In Live 10 (as of 10.0.2b4), the ClyphX Pro Lessons category will not show up by default. This is due
to the lessons structure not being completed as of yet in Live 10. You can workaround this by
modifying a file within Live. Once you modify this file, you'll access the ClyphX Pro Lessons by
clicking on Packs at the home page in Help View. Note, however, that this doesn't resolve another bug
where the formatting of text within lessons is not handled properly thus making the text a bit more
difficult to read.

At any rate, here's how to apply the workaround:

– On Windows, go to:

ProgramData\Ableton\Live 10\Resources\Builtin Lessons\TableOfContents\DefaultToc Lessons

– On OS X, go to Applications, find the Live 10 app, Control-click or right click on it and select

Show Package Contents. Then go to:

Contents/App-Resources/Builtin Lessons/TableOfContents/DefaultToc Lessons

Within that folder, find the Lessonsxx.txt file corresponding to your language. For example, for English, you'll use the LessonsEN.txt file. Within that file, find the line that reads:

$Link Packs.png <Lesson:Internal/AutoToc>

Change that line to:

$Link Packs.png <Lesson:Internal/BuiltinAutoToc>


Oh great, so im not going insane after all. Thanks for the heads up :)


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:52 pm 

Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:34 pm
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S4racen wrote:
Here's some details if you don't want to wait for the next version of Live....

In Live 10 (as of 10.0.2b4), the ClyphX Pro Lessons category will not show up by default. This is due
to the lessons structure not being completed as of yet in Live 10. You can workaround this by
modifying a file within Live. Once you modify this file, you'll access the ClyphX Pro Lessons by
clicking on Packs at the home page in Help View. Note, however, that this doesn't resolve another bug
where the formatting of text within lessons is not handled properly thus making the text a bit more
difficult to read.

At any rate, here's how to apply the workaround:

– On Windows, go to:

ProgramData\Ableton\Live 10\Resources\Builtin Lessons\TableOfContents\DefaultToc Lessons

– On OS X, go to Applications, find the Live 10 app, Control-click or right click on it and select

Show Package Contents. Then go to:

Contents/App-Resources/Builtin Lessons/TableOfContents/DefaultToc Lessons

Within that folder, find the Lessonsxx.txt file corresponding to your language. For example, for English, you'll use the LessonsEN.txt file. Within that file, find the line that reads:

$Link Packs.png <Lesson:Internal/AutoToc>

Change that line to:

$Link Packs.png <Lesson:Internal/BuiltinAutoToc>


Now that Live 10 is out of beta, should this still be broken and require this work around? I'm on Live Suite 10.0.2, and I can't find the Lessons for ClyphX Pro. About to apply this hack.... :?


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:48 pm 

Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:41 am
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Lessons (Help View) in Projects have nothing to do with this thread...

To show the lessons/help for projects you loaded that have those, click "Help" in the menu bar then "Help View".

For Packs, right the Pack and click "Show Default Lesson".


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:51 pm 

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by the way, do note the date of this post. this hack still must be applied on 10.0.5 - also the 1.1.5 version of the ClyphXpro user manual doesn't include this information yet either. :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Live 10: can't find built in lessons anymore...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:59 am 

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skotterz wrote:
also the 1.1.5 version of the ClyphXpro user manual doesn't include this information yet either. :evil:


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