Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

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Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Oneiroi » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:06 pm

Hi, I'm posting this here to see if anyone else has that problem or if it's only happening to me...

Everytime I try to scan my User Library folder via the Managing Files View in Live 10, Live gets stuck around 94% and then crashes. I did some folder renaming and reorganizing recently and I'd love to fix it quickly. Tried the latest version of Live BETA also and did the same thing. Live 9 seems to work fine though.

Anyone else having that problem?

Thanks!

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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by [jur] » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:24 pm

It's a known bug. No idea when it'll be fixed though.
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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Oneiroi » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:30 pm

[jur] wrote:It's a known bug. No idea when it'll be fixed though.
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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by ark » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:32 am

It happens when a project contains another project.

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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Stromkraft » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:02 am

ark wrote:It happens when a project contains another project.
So the solution is to move the contained project out of the containing project folder?
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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by ark » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:22 pm

Stromkraft wrote:
ark wrote:It happens when a project contains another project.
So the solution is to move the contained project out of the containing project folder?
It's a workaround rather than a solution; but yes.

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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Stromkraft » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:43 pm

ark wrote:
Stromkraft wrote:
ark wrote:It happens when a project contains another project.
So the solution is to move the contained project out of the containing project folder?
It's a workaround rather than a solution; but yes.
Well, personally it would never occur to me to save new projects into existing project folders so a very low price to avoid a nasty bug.
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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Sierrah's » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:54 am

I have almost 200,000 samples at just about 50gb in my user library. I thought this was why it was crashing. I’m curious what others user libraries sample count and disk space are.
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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Oneiroi » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:40 pm

ark wrote:It happens when a project contains another project.
Looked at all my Project folders and didn't see any secondary project folder in them. Still crashes.

If there is a Live Set file inside a folder that's named, for example, "Ideas", would that folder be considered a Project folder, even if there isn't the word "Project" at the end? Sometimes I save 2-3 tracks with clips in them as ideas for later and Ableton saves that as a Live Set file, but I don't want that file to be with all of my other Live Set filets, I want it to be inside a folder which keeps different musical ideas inside, either as Clip files (.alc) or Set files (.als). Do you think that would crash the scan?

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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by pottering » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:29 pm

Not sure, but I think yes, 'a Live Set file inside a folder that's named, for example, "Ideas"' would be considered a Project folder.

You could testing yourself, moving those Sets to the "root folder" of the project, or to new folders that are outside a Project.

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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by nathannn » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:05 am

Live also crashes if it scans vst3.
The software is really starting to show its old code base.
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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by pottering » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:05 am

nathannn wrote:Live also crashes if it scans vst3.
I just moved the VST3 version of Waves shell (WaveShell1-VST3 10.0_x64.vst3) to my VST folder and re-scanned.

Live just ignored it and completed the scan without crashing.

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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Mark Williams » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:06 am

nathannn wrote:Live also crashes if it scans vst3.
NO it doesnt, mine just ignores VST3's perfectly well.
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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by cotdagoo » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:40 pm

If there are any folders named "Ableton Project Info" contained within your User Library - delete them, and try to scan the user library again.

Had a similar problem early on in the v10 beta, and another user figured it was related to these "Ableton Project Info" folders.

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Re: Scanning User Library Crashes Live 10

Post by Oneiroi » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:02 pm

cotdagoo wrote:If there are any folders named "Ableton Project Info" contained within your User Library - delete them, and try to scan the user library again.

Had a similar problem early on in the v10 beta, and another user figured it was related to these "Ableton Project Info" folders.
That solved it! Thank you so much!

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