Keeping clip automation envelopes when dragging into arrange
Keeping clip automation envelopes when dragging into arrange
As far as I can tell, in live 9, there is no way to make sure that clip envelopes stay with the clip when I drag them into aggangement view from session view. In live 10, do the envelopes stay with the clip when bringing them over to arrangement? It's a major pain to have to copy each individual automation envelope! Before I upgrade to 10, I would love to know if this exists, and I can't seem to find it in the manual. Is it possible in live 9 and I'm just doing something wrong?
Re: Keeping clip automation envelopes when dragging into arrange
The way to pass the automation info is by Arrangement Record, where you trigger Clips in Session and that gets recorded in Arrangement.
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/sessi ... rrangement
My guess is that they want to avoid the situation where you draw automation in 23 lanes in Arrangement, then you drag a Clip from Session with automation in only 2 lanes, erasing the automation in the other 21 lanes without noticing.
Drag'n'drop is too fast and loose, people do it without thinking, if it overwrote out-of-view data (like automation in multiple lanes) it could be a disaster for many people who don't pay attention.
And "paying attention" by itself is a huge time sink, imagine having to double-check the automation every time after you dragged a Clip into Arrangement (from the Browser too), to be sure stuff is in the right place...
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/sessi ... rrangement
My guess is that they want to avoid the situation where you draw automation in 23 lanes in Arrangement, then you drag a Clip from Session with automation in only 2 lanes, erasing the automation in the other 21 lanes without noticing.
Drag'n'drop is too fast and loose, people do it without thinking, if it overwrote out-of-view data (like automation in multiple lanes) it could be a disaster for many people who don't pay attention.
And "paying attention" by itself is a huge time sink, imagine having to double-check the automation every time after you dragged a Clip into Arrangement (from the Browser too), to be sure stuff is in the right place...
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Re: Keeping clip automation envelopes when dragging into arrange
I figured as much. I know about Arrangement Record, but I hoped there was a simpler way.
Sometimes when I use Arrangement Record, my delay and reverb tails get cut off, and some things just don't sound exactly the same as when I'm launching clips in session. Also, when I look at what I've recorded, there are blank clips of strange lengths where the silece in my audio tracks is (like some are a bar and a half long) even though all my clips in session are 4 bars long. idk
Oh well, I hope they add this feature at some point, because I like to do most of my automation and "arranging" in individual clips in session view.
My next question would be, is there a way to copy and paste all the clip envelopes at once? Not all of them for the entire project, but all of them for an individual clip.
Sometimes when I use Arrangement Record, my delay and reverb tails get cut off, and some things just don't sound exactly the same as when I'm launching clips in session. Also, when I look at what I've recorded, there are blank clips of strange lengths where the silece in my audio tracks is (like some are a bar and a half long) even though all my clips in session are 4 bars long. idk
Oh well, I hope they add this feature at some point, because I like to do most of my automation and "arranging" in individual clips in session view.
My next question would be, is there a way to copy and paste all the clip envelopes at once? Not all of them for the entire project, but all of them for an individual clip.