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Live 10.03 lagging like hell - SOLVED!!

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:46 am
by mr.adl
Live 10.03 laggs like hell :(

Was previously on Live 10.02 and it worked flawless. It seems that it updated itself yesterday and now its lagging like crazy, even freezing my PC.
Anybody else experiencing this?

WIN 10, 64Bit. Nothing changed besides the Ableton Live update from 10.02 - 10.03.

EDIT:
Here is the fix (at least it worked for me)
-Create an option text file like in the description here:
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... s-txt-file

-copy this this inside the text file: -_ForceGdiBackend

-put it in the folder as described in the upper link

-restart Live 10.03 (or install it)

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:27 am
by [tow]
Please directly contact our Tech Support with this issue, via https://www.ableton.com/en/help/ and include a recent Live 10.0.3 Status Report in your mail.
They will take a deeper look into this and assist you further.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:31 am
by mr.adl
Done that already. :)
Hope you guys can help me out. Never had a problem with Live so far, also never with any updates. Even the Betas where running rock solid.

BTW: bugreport is in german language in case you are looking for it. :wink:

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:14 am
by [tow]
No problem with german language there. - Does this mean that 10.0.3b8 was running completely smooth for you? In this case, this problem would be really odd... You can also check if the Indexer is currently working in 10.0.3 and maybe causing the lag. But in any case, let's see what the further investigation and status report assessment @Support reveals.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:21 am
by mr.adl
No, i meant when i was running the Beta´s for Live 10 (before Live 10 was officially released).
Didn´t used a Beta since Live 10 came out.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:10 pm
by mr.adl
I did a complete uninstall of Live 10.03, even deleted all the hidden folders (like the uninstall guide from the Ableton homepage explained).
Reinstalled Live 10.03 new and it started lagging right from the start.
Uninstalled Live 10.03 completely and reinstalled Live 10.02: no lagging or freezing at all. So, definetely something weird happening with 10.03 at least on my machine.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:24 pm
by EnjoyRC
Is the 10.0.3 lag issue primarily Windows? How is it on Mac?

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:42 pm
by Piet Pompies
I have the same problem on W10-64bit.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:15 pm
by mr.adl
Piet Pompies wrote:I have the same problem on W10-64bit.
Will try this solution and see if that works:
viewtopic.php?p=1746708#p1746708

EDIT:
Wow, it really worked! :D

At least for me.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:07 pm
by mikb
mr.adl wrote:
Piet Pompies wrote:I have the same problem on W10-64bit.
Will try this solution and see if that works:
viewtopic.php?p=1746708#p1746708

EDIT:
Wow, it really worked! :D

At least for me.
So only adding _ForceGdiBackend to Options.txt removed your issue? That's all you did? Anyone tell you what this do?
What graphics card and which driver do you have, that you didn't rollback?

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:17 am
by mr.adl
mikb wrote:
mr.adl wrote:
Piet Pompies wrote:I have the same problem on W10-64bit.
Will try this solution and see if that works:
viewtopic.php?p=1746708#p1746708

EDIT:
Wow, it really worked! :D

At least for me.
So only adding _ForceGdiBackend to Options.txt removed your issue? That's all you did? Anyone tell you what this do?
What graphics card and which driver do you have, that you didn't rollback?
The quote was from another thread in this forum regarding laggs. The option text thing as advised from the Ableton support to that user and worked fro him and another guy, so i gave it a shot and it worked out for me. The support advised to even roll back the graphic card driver but the person didn´t do that and it worked, so i didnt do it as well (and it worked for me as well). So, only thing i did was creating the optiosn text file with the code in it and placed it in the specific hidden abelton folder. Then installed Live 10.03 and it started without stuttering or lagging.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell - SOLVED!!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:53 pm
by grahamt
Thanks for the tip - it worked for me too. Now back using 10.0.3

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell - SOLVED!!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:01 pm
by lapieuvre
mr.adl wrote:Live 10.03 laggs like hell :(

Was previously on Live 10.02 and it worked flawless. It seems that it updated itself yesterday and now its lagging like crazy, even freezing my PC.
Anybody else experiencing this?

WIN 10, 64Bit. Nothing changed besides the Ableton Live update from 10.02 - 10.03.

EDIT:
Here is the fiy (at least it worked for me)
-Create an option text file like in the description here:
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... s-txt-file

-copy this this inside the text file: -_ForceGdiBackend

-put it in the folder as described in the upper link

-restart Live 10.03 (or install it)
Not Here...

I was working on a project using 10.0.2, everything went fine. Now in 10.0.3 it's glitching like crazy. I tried your option.txt trick without success.

Unfortunately, I don't have a 10.0.2 installation file.

Oh well...

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell - SOLVED!!

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:05 am
by mikb
lapieuvre wrote:Now in 10.0.3 it's glitching like crazy. I tried your option.txt trick without success.
I think that might be for Windows only.

Re: Live 10.03 lagging like hell - SOLVED!!

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:55 am
by copong
I found this same issue on Windows 10 and 10.0.3. Support has given me the same reply as above which I haven't been able to try out just yet. but I found I could workaround the problem by setting the UI zoom at anything other than 100% (eg 101% or 99%).