Audio Editor / Editing

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jlgrimes
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Re: Audio Editor / Editing

Post by jlgrimes » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:08 pm

pottering wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:07 pm
Live is non-destructive, it doesn't do destructive editing.

Only editing with external editor, which you can specify in the File/Folder Preferences:

https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/clip- ... le-editing


Personally I don't even get why people want destructive editing, I don't see any advantage in destroying the source and always save edits in new files (not only for audio, for gfx work, etc.), and Live does that automatically already.

Freeze/Flatten is Ableton's version of destructive editing.

Resampling/recording the track is another option but Freeze/Flatten is probably the fastest.

pottering
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Re: Audio Editor / Editing

Post by pottering » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:59 pm

Resampling, Consolidate, Freeze, Flatten and Crop are not destructive editing, they create a entirely new file in the project folder, the original file stays untouched.

Destructive editing literally destroys (overwrites) the original file (with a new one).

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Re: Audio Editor / Editing

Post by pds92 » Mon May 25, 2020 2:01 pm

Hello,
when I edit an audio sample in live to modify it in audacity and then I import it to ableton live, I have a problem, my sample is defective because when listening it looks like I'm listening to a scratched disc ... I thought that it was a problem of format and encoding of the import, I tried to change its format, ect... but It does not change anything ... I understoood that live had tempo functions in the session window, etc ... which could cause the pb ... If someone knows how to solve the problem I'm interested, thank you ...

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Re: Audio Editor / Editing

Post by ronzoni » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:41 pm

Thanks for this post, I was a little confused about this coming from Maschine, and now I get it. I'm so used to just editing the sample directly, maybe I'll learn to do this non-destructive thing in Ableton once I get the hang of it.

Anyway, I found a free plugin here https://www.ocenaudio.com/ that so far works as well as TwistedWave.

I also tried Fission, but I wasn't able to save in place (e.g. export only), that may be because I only had the trial, not sure. It's like $30 for Fission, TwistedWave is like $80, so I'm going with ocenaudio 8) and if it works well, will drop a donation

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Re: Audio Editor / Editing

Post by Da hand » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:55 pm

pottering wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:59 pm
Resampling, Consolidate, Freeze, Flatten and Crop are not destructive editing, they create a entirely new file in the project folder, the original file stays untouched.

Destructive editing literally destroys (overwrites) the original file (with a new one).
I agree with most things you post pottering, but sorry I can't agree with you there. Destructive editing means that you are changing the audio file into something new, but is not based on how that changed audio file is then saved - whether you make and/or use a copy or not is not relevant.

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