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 Post subject: is there a way to MIDI map scrolldown multiple rows at once?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:03 pm 

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Hi have been happily using an APC40Mk2 for years, am switching to the APC Key25 for travel purposes. The one function I can't figure out how to duplicate is bank scrolling: the ability to scroll down 5 rows at a time, which is very time saving since my set is insanely long (nearly 1000 rows). The Mk2 has a "bank" button which enables this, but the Key25 doesn't have this option and in Live the only MIDI map option I can see only allows you to scroll one row at a time. Is there a multiple row up/down MIDI option?

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 Post subject: Re: is there a way to MIDI map scrolldown multiple rows at once?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:13 pm 

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No thats only accessible through a python script or MaxforLive
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 Post subject: Re: is there a way to MIDI map scrolldown multiple rows at once?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:20 am 

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thanks man - i've never tried to write a script but will investigate.
if you can suggest any resources i'd be grateful (and btw i have bought stuff from isotonik before, great work!)

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 Post subject: Re: is there a way to MIDI map scrolldown multiple rows at once?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:36 am 

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luxxury wrote:
if you can suggest any resources i'd be grateful


I'd love to but most of what I used years ago is out of date now and everything is pretty much undocumented. :-(

I don't know the Key 25 personally but if has a Redbox it's likely to have a Session_Control component and thats where I'd start looking...

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 Post subject: Re: is there a way to MIDI map scrolldown multiple rows at once?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:48 pm 

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thanks man - those keywords helped, i was able to find this device someone built as a plug in to enable you to set up to 8 memory points to quickly move up and down a long session:

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... ve-red-box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8IB4LtR8EA

..it's slightly wonky but works well enough for what i need and saves me from learning python just for this one task, so i'm pretty happy!

fwiw i found some python scripting info which i imagine if i kept at it for a few more hours might get me closer to coding it myself (which would be a first!) but i'll post it here in case anyone finds this thread useful someday:

from http://remotescripts.blogspot.com i'm guessing the key words for coding moving the redbox up and down are one of these:
# Session Navigation (aka "red box")
SESSIONUP = -1 #Session up
SESSIONDOWN = -1 #Session down

# Scene Navigation
SCENEUP = -1 #Scene down
SCENEDN = -1 #Scene up

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 Post subject: Re: is there a way to MIDI map scrolldown multiple rows at once?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:46 pm 

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nativeKontrol should solve this & provide many more features , either by using their Arsenal modular controller scripts of which Arsesenal APK exists for APC keys 25 , avaible directly from their website https://www.nativekontrol.com/Arsenal_APK.html

or by using their general scripting product ClyphX Pro which is distributed by Isotonik. https://isotonikstudios.com/product/clyphx-pro/

The arsenal system works by purchasing a specific controller script e.g APK , but then having access to add additional general module packs for added functionalaity .
I don't know if the arsenal APK script has an option for up down scene bank change , but in Session Mode the shift button gives a global view allowing to jump in 8x5 blocks.

The clyphX pro script has a CS (controller script) action where you can specify the number of scenes to jump , so this should do as you wish .

Both products are very useful & can be used together . As a user I recommend.


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 Post subject: Re: is there a way to MIDI map scrolldown multiple rows at once?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:41 pm 

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Galacticblip wrote:
The clyphX pro script has a CS (controller script) action where you can specify the number of scenes to jump , so this should do as you wish .


Yeah I should do a video at some point demonstrating this....

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