Problem: How to assign controller exclusively to Drum Racks?

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Factor9
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Problem: How to assign controller exclusively to Drum Racks?

Post by Factor9 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:33 am

I've searched and searched and not found a solution. I've come across a couple threads elsewhere with others looking for the same solution but never found any answers.

What I want to do: have a fader-based controller (nanoKONTROL, LaunchControlXL, MIDImix, et al) assigned exclusively to a drum rack so I can have volume/mute/solo control over each channel inside a drum rack. For instance if I want to pull the hi hats down a bit, or mute the kick drum or solo the clap channel, etc. I want do have control over a drum rack in the same manner an APC (or similar) has control over the standard tracks.

Yes, I can MIDI map faders to 8 or 9 channels in a drum rack but 1) there's no apparent way to actually save this mapping, 2) the Solo buttons in the drum rack don't seem to be mappable (at least through conventional means), and 3) doing this there's no way to bank/page through all 16 channels in a drum rack, you're stuck with the 8-9 channels that you manually mapped.

It seems like this should be SO MUCH easier to accomplish with all the flexibility in Live, I mean, a drum rack does have 16 fully-featured channel strips in it, so why is it so hard to dedicate a controller to control those parameters???

I have a Push 2 and an APC40 MKII. I've tried to get a nanoKONTROL2 and LaunchControl XL to do what I want but with no luck. If there's a way to setup the APC40mkii to quickly toggle between "drum rack" and "normal" mode, that would be cool, but I'd prefer to have a separate, dedicated controller.

Previously, I had individual drum rack channels running through separate outputs from an interface then into an analog mixer, which gave me volme/mute/solo control over each drum rack channel, but I'm doing everything ITB now and simply want that same level of control over a drum rack with a MIDI controller. I refuse to believe this isn't possible.

Running Live 10 Suite.

Thoughts? Ideas? Solutions? Lobotomy? Cyanide pills? Whatever brings resolve...

itsanotherjim
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Re: Problem: How to assign controller exclusively to Drum Racks?

Post by itsanotherjim » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:38 pm

Hi, did you find a solution to this? I'm currently trying to do the same thing. I have Push2 but I want immediate hands on control of all levels, mutes, sends etc for drum racks. I don't know what will give me this though

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Re: Problem: How to assign controller exclusively to Drum Racks?

Post by ShelLuser » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:23 pm

You can't assign or lock a controller onto a specific section (sorta), but it would depend on your controller. What you can do is assign specific midi controllers (instruments) to control ('play') one or more specific tracks, for that you'd want to look into routing. If you have 2 controllers you could simply select different sections and leave things at that.

But as soon as you want dedicated faders and all that then you're going to have to apply midi mapping. The settings will be saved in the live set itself, so in order to apply that to all your projects you'd have to set it up as the default live set.
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itsanotherjim
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Re: Problem: How to assign controller exclusively to Drum Racks?

Post by itsanotherjim » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:30 pm

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to get a Launch Control XL and experiment with midi mappings as you suggest. I want to set it up to give hands on control of the Cloud 808 and 909.

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