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Dragging Notes Into Grid Without Offset

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:36 am
by nezzyidy
I am trying to drag a note in the grid area of a midi clip. Unfortunately it is hard for me to have the note snap to the grid point because it snaps to secret offset points.
The offset points are non-grid areas that Ableton thinks might be useful.

My grid is set to Narrow. Sometimes it can be hard to know if a dragged note is spot on, or slightly off. Because of this I have to move the note, then quantize it.

How do I drag a note without hitting a non grid spot?

Re: Dragging Notes Into Grid Without Offset

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:16 am
by oratowsky
I'm not sure I quite know what you mean by "secret offset points".

When the grid is enabled, notes should snap with a good margin of error to the nearest grid division. You can also make an off grid note snap to the grid with the arrow keys.

You can enable and disable the grid by hitting Cmd+4 . When the grid is enabled you can widen or narrow the grid size with Cmd+1 / Cmd+2. (Ctrl on windows.)

Forgive me if I misunderstood your issue though

Re: Dragging Notes Into Grid Without Offset

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:06 am
by pottering
Alt+dragging also bypasses snapping (CMD on Mac)

Re: Dragging Notes Into Grid Without Offset

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:52 am
by nezzyidy
No It does not snap to the grid always - watch the gif:

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Re: Dragging Notes Into Grid Without Offset

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:55 am
by nezzyidy
From the Ableton Manual:
10.4.3 Grid Snapping
Most functions in the MIDI Editor are subject to grid snapping (see 6.9). But when adjusting events with the mouse, the grid is “magnetic”; event positions can be moved freely up to the previous or next grid line and then will snap if you continue to drag. You can hold down the ALT(PC) / CMD(Mac) modifier while performing an action to bypass grid snapping.

Note movements will also snap to an “offset,” which is based on the original placement of the note relative to the grid. This is useful for preserving a groove or loose playing style that you do not necessarily want to “set straight.”