Step automation delay

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paikas
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Step automation delay

Post by paikas » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:46 pm

Hi. I can’t use step automation properly for envelope settings and whatnot – if the midi note starts at that step, the automation is always slewed, i.e. there’s a slight delay in automation in comparison to the note and it glides to the value.

Same with delay compensation on and off.

Very audible with any timbral modulation. E.g. modulating cutoff always sounds like it's modulated by an envelope with attack phase.

Any fixes? Apart from automating the preceding step.
Last edited by paikas on Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:26 am, edited 2 times in total.

jestermgee
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Re: Step automation delay

Post by jestermgee » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:31 pm

Just post the question in one thread, no need to cross post.

paikas
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Re: Step automation delay

Post by paikas » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:15 pm

bump

paikas
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Re: Step automation delay

Post by paikas » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:18 am

bump

pottering
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Re: Step automation delay

Post by pottering » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:25 pm

If you have a step that changes values significantly in the beginning, then it is audible as a value jump, for obvious reasons.

It HAS to be audible.

If you want it to start at value X, then start the automation with value X, not a step that jumps from Y to X.

Simply delete the point set at the value you don't want, so it doesn't start with a sudden change.
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paikas
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Re: Step automation delay

Post by paikas » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:38 pm

The problem is that the change is not sudden enough. It doesn't jump, it glides.

pottering
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Re: Step automation delay

Post by pottering » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:20 pm

That's the instrument or FX, not LIve. Live just sends the raw numbers to the instruments and FX.

Many instruments and FX smooth the automation (and also MIDI CC) internally. That's because it can cause "clicks" otherwise.
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