Change automation from fader to utility gain
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Change automation from fader to utility gain
Hi there, my first post here!
I am finishing a mix and made the mistake to automate all my volumes at the track fader, not with utility gain (noob, I am used to Logic and being able to trim them).
I want to copy the automation from the fader and “transfer” it to utility gain, but they don’t quite match the volumes.
Is there a way to do this without losing the automation work I did with the track fader?
Thanks
I am finishing a mix and made the mistake to automate all my volumes at the track fader, not with utility gain (noob, I am used to Logic and being able to trim them).
I want to copy the automation from the fader and “transfer” it to utility gain, but they don’t quite match the volumes.
Is there a way to do this without losing the automation work I did with the track fader?
Thanks
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Re: Change automation from fader to utility gain
This helped me : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OND_3tGSCcc
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Re: Change automation from fader to utility gain
Thanks! I saw that same video but the problem is that -5db in the utility gain is not the same as -5db in the track faderRedSkyRoad wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:33 pmThis helped me : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OND_3tGSCcc

Re: Change automation from fader to utility gain
Group the Utility in a Rack, macro Utility's Gain to a macro knob, then set the macro knob's Max to +6.0 (which is the same maximum in the track faders) instead of +35.0.
Then you can copy and paste the automation from the track fader to that macro knob's automation, since it has the same -inf to +6.0 range.
Then you can copy and paste the automation from the track fader to that macro knob's automation, since it has the same -inf to +6.0 range.
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Re: Change automation from fader to utility gain
Great! I’ll try that, thanks a lot!pottering wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:59 pmGroup the Utility in a Rack, macro Utility's Gain to a macro knob, then set the macro knob's Max to +6.0 (which is the same maximum in the track faders) instead of +35.0.
Then you can copy and paste the automation from the track fader to that macro knob's automation, since it has the same -inf to +6.0 range.

Re: Change automation from fader to utility gain
Nice tip!Carlos Damer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:07 amGreat! I’ll try that, thanks a lot!pottering wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:59 pmGroup the Utility in a Rack, macro Utility's Gain to a macro knob, then set the macro knob's Max to +6.0 (which is the same maximum in the track faders) instead of +35.0.
Then you can copy and paste the automation from the track fader to that macro knob's automation, since it has the same -inf to +6.0 range.![]()
What I do, instead of transferring my Fader Volume automations to a Utility Gain, is I transfer them to the Chain Volume of an empty chain in an empty rack. This way there is no conversion necessary - as the volume range is exactly the same.
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Re: Change automation from fader to utility gain
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Nice tip!
What I do, instead of transferring my Fader Volume automations to a Utility Gain, is I transfer them to the Chain Volume of an empty chain in an empty rack. This way there is no conversion necessary - as the volume range is exactly the same.
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That’s interesting too. I still have to get my head around mixing with Live, it works differently than what I’m used in other DAWs. I guess having a fixed workflow for that kind of stuff is the way to go
Nice tip!
What I do, instead of transferring my Fader Volume automations to a Utility Gain, is I transfer them to the Chain Volume of an empty chain in an empty rack. This way there is no conversion necessary - as the volume range is exactly the same.
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That’s interesting too. I still have to get my head around mixing with Live, it works differently than what I’m used in other DAWs. I guess having a fixed workflow for that kind of stuff is the way to go