SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

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SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by masproduct » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:10 am

Hi all, first of all i've sent a support request to softube for this problem, its taken over three weeks and yet no response, so i thought i might pick a few people brains.

All my 35 plugins of softube keep crashing ableton, this is a new occurrence. I think it might be a continuation of problems with the softube installer they introduced early in the year or, maybe the latest ableton build?. Everything is latest version, including ableton, max, windows 10, softube installer, ilock ect ect. I've done the routines of uninstalling ...reinstalling including ableton ect ect to no prevail. Yes i have installed all plugins manually as well. Like i said i've never really had an issue with softube, and i'm not crying about how bad they are,although im yet to get a response from their support team, i'm sure their busy.

I guess is anyone one else experiencing issues with softube. The products range from modular, monument, ect to tube tec, harmonic distortion and tape ect. I dont think its my computer as every other plugin, program is working fine no hitches, even with the updating of windows 10 a week or two ago. I dont think its ableton 10.1.7 which i updated a couple of weeks ago.

Just an annoying issue i guess, any help would be wonderful!

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by [jur] » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:36 pm

Are they crashing Live upon while loading?
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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Mark Williams » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:41 pm

My softube plugins running ok within Ableton, running latest softube versions?
Live 11, M1 Mac Mini, Push 2, Scarlett 18i20 & ADA8200, Softube Console 1 Mk2, Deepmind12, Hydrasynth, Cobalt 8M, Moog Subsequent 25, IK Uno Synth Pro, Plethora X3, Nord Drum 3P

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by daichtrax » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:00 pm

have you tried updating your graphic card drivers?

it may not be an ableton issue. probably openGL rendering related. I had exact same issue and softtube support was totally MIA / unhelpful; i updated my nvidia drivers and softube has been working solid since.

if updating your gl drivers doesn't work, you might try installing reaper and then seeing if you still have the same issue. if you have the latest gfx drivers, and it loads in reaper, but not ableton, then at least you can get to the sofftube config and inactivate GL, then see if it works.

softtube really should have a support article on this / options from inside softtube installer app.

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by jwhunter » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:08 am

I have same problem with the time and tone bundle from softube, it doesn't crash loading Ableton but if I use the saturation knob Ableton will freeze or crash. I have them installed in pro tools first and used them in cakewalk without any issues. I downloaded the individual installers as softube central would download them and get stuck installing them but this hasn't made any difference. Customer support is non excistant, I raised this issue Nov last year but have not received any reply. I am glad I didn't pay any money for them as they came with my Focusrite interface.

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Mark Williams » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:30 pm

Time & tone bundle working ok here, maybe try updating the softube stuff, as there was an update recently, plus try your graphics drivers, as a lot of Sotfube stuff uses OpenGL.
Live 11, M1 Mac Mini, Push 2, Scarlett 18i20 & ADA8200, Softube Console 1 Mk2, Deepmind12, Hydrasynth, Cobalt 8M, Moog Subsequent 25, IK Uno Synth Pro, Plethora X3, Nord Drum 3P

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Schebi » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:30 am

After reinstall my maschine after Blue Screens.
I (re)installed all Software in newest version had face now the same problem.
Load and start VST Softube Modular or Heartbeat (which i own) let ableton crashes...

Cheers
Jan

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Post by Schebi » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:34 am

By the Way trying VST3 Plugins to and the crashes are the same.
Could really be a playing together of some components then?

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Mark Williams » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:25 am

Then its not the plugins they all work here, have you tried updating graphics card drivers?
Live 11, M1 Mac Mini, Push 2, Scarlett 18i20 & ADA8200, Softube Console 1 Mk2, Deepmind12, Hydrasynth, Cobalt 8M, Moog Subsequent 25, IK Uno Synth Pro, Plethora X3, Nord Drum 3P

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Schebi » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:31 am

As i sayed Reinstall the maschine complete from scratch and alle Drivers are new as hell...

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Mark Williams » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 am

Reinstalling from scratch doesn't always give you the correct graphics card driver for your card and as your getting blue screens then there is something else going on, possible hardware failing.
Live 11, M1 Mac Mini, Push 2, Scarlett 18i20 & ADA8200, Softube Console 1 Mk2, Deepmind12, Hydrasynth, Cobalt 8M, Moog Subsequent 25, IK Uno Synth Pro, Plethora X3, Nord Drum 3P

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Schebi » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:15 am

really that is what you stand on?
Reinstall was because off a wrong driver in windows10.
I install the hole maschine and windows10 from scratch. Means no old stuff.
Now the OS problem ist solve.

GraKa driver:
I got a RTX 2060 and GeForce Driver 456.71 from 07.10.2020...
There is no newer driver...

I guess its a dismiss from softube to use old or no compatible thinks from somethink, so ...

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Mark Williams » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:57 pm

Do it yourself, as you seem to know better!
Live 11, M1 Mac Mini, Push 2, Scarlett 18i20 & ADA8200, Softube Console 1 Mk2, Deepmind12, Hydrasynth, Cobalt 8M, Moog Subsequent 25, IK Uno Synth Pro, Plethora X3, Nord Drum 3P

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Schebi » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:02 pm

yah, maybe yes, because U didnt understand...
Its funny because all other VST has no problems and on fresh system i didnt expect such problems.
But in the end is more a softube problem and not from ableton.

Thank you anywhere for reply.
We will see...

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Re: SOFTTUBE VST2/3 CRASHING ABLETON

Post by Johntra Volta » Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:11 pm

Hello people,
I was having crashes immidietly after starting any softube plugin.
My solution was to delet following file:
Windows/USER/You/AppData/Roaming/Softube/Softube Preset Collection Settings
Dont worry, its a text file and Softube makes new one after you start it next time.
I am so hapy now I had to share this
No more crashes!

Win 11, Ableton Live 11 Lite, Softube Marshal Silver 2.5.71

Have a nice day!

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