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lovelight wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:50 pm

You got some nerve here ! i Bought Upgrades since Live 1 and up to Live 10 Suite, now you want me to pay 159 euro for live 11... REALLY? this will make me think of another DAW because this price is unfair for people who already bought the Ableton suite. Ive been doing a lot of work for
Push with vst integrations and done a group https://www.facebook.com/groups/AbletonPushVstRacks,
with close to 9000 members, this is not a friendly business model for people who had allready paid a lot of cash for Live and Push...Gone are the The Prenzlaur berg model, in are the Charlottenburg model. Good luck with that, especially in these mad times with Corona, where we need some kindness more than ever. So sorry Ableton, this is not good.

Angstrom wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:39 pm

I'm going to do what I always do : purchase my license to grumble at the earliest opportunity.

Sure, they should have added a few of these bits to L10.2. Sure they are shafting us a bit. But have you observed nothing? This is purgatory we exist in, not heaven. Things are meant to be 59% annoying/disappointing by nature of existing here. The only way out is to munch joyfully upon the parts of the sandwich that are not poop.

It will be fine. I'll pay the money and pretend I paid an electric bill. I'll get a spectral whatsit and a followy thingy. I'll get some new stuff to complain about. What could be better?

Lovelights wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:50 pm

lovelight wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:50 pm

You got some nerve here ! i Bought Upgrades since Live 1 and up to Live 10 Suite, now you want me to pay 159 euro for live 11... REALLY? this will make me think of another DAW because this price is unfair for people who already bought the Ableton suite. Ive been doing a lot of work for
Push with vst integrations and done a group https://www.facebook.com/groups/AbletonPushVstRacks,
with close to 9000 members, this is not a friendly business model for people who had allready paid a lot of cash for Live and Push...Gone are the The Prenzlaur berg model, in are the Charlottenburg model. Good luck with that, especially in these mad times with Corona, where we need some kindness more than ever. So sorry Ableton, this is not good.

[jur] wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:24 pm

Everyone was upset because it took 5 years (or more?) for Live10, but now this one was too quick.
Back in the early Live versions, the 1 (1/2) year turnaround was quite usual.

I get that it can be upsetting for some that this means spending cash once more. But please remember what huge free point updates we got with Live 9. Live 10.1 was quite big too...

ze2be wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:09 pm

[jur] wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:24 pm

Everyone was upset because it took 5 years (or more?) for Live10, but now this one was too quick.
Back in the early Live versions, the 1 (1/2) year turnaround was quite usual.

I get that it can be upsetting for some that this means spending cash once more. But please remember what huge free point updates we got with Live 9. Live 10.1 was quite big too...

Cry me a river. Dont listen to these childish cry babies. Im 47 and I am super hyped about this release! I fully trust that Ableton price Live at the level they need to. Running such an amount of employees and offices out of Germany is not cheep. Im happy Apple or Windows haven't bought Ableton to force it to only one platform, where from they could push the price down a lot. I like to use both platforms, and regularly work with others that do the same. Ive been with Live since version 4 got midi, taken me from bedroom to mainstage. Ableton is my life!

Congratulations to all your team! Unbelievably fast work!! Crazy cool new futures!! Haven't been this excited for a new full version in a long time.

Cheers!! Prost! Skål!

dbfs wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:49 pm

ze2be wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:09 pm

[jur] wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:24 pm

Everyone was upset because it took 5 years (or more?) for Live10, but now this one was too quick.
Back in the early Live versions, the 1 (1/2) year turnaround was quite usual.

I get that it can be upsetting for some that this means spending cash once more. But please remember what huge free point updates we got with Live 9. Live 10.1 was quite big too...

Cry me a river. Dont listen to these childish cry babies. Im 47 and I am super hyped about this release! I fully trust that Ableton price Live at the level they need to. Running such an amount of employees and offices out of Germany is not cheep. Im happy Apple or Windows haven't bought Ableton to force it to only one platform, where from they could push the price down a lot. I like to use both platforms, and regularly work with others that do the same. Ive been with Live since version 4 got midi, taken me from bedroom to mainstage. Ableton is my life!

Congratulations to all your team! Unbelievably fast work!! Crazy cool new futures!! Haven't been this excited for a new full version in a long time.

Cheers!! Prost! Skål!

Honestly guy, you sound like you're 13. Listen to yourself.... You're on the internet calling other paying customers you don't even know cry babies because they happen to have their own opinion and voice it on the forums JUST LIKE YOU.... Guys like you are what make the internet so fucking lame sometimes, man... Seriously... you're god damn 47 for fucks sakes...

Buying the same software 10 times over is a valid issue that's growing out of hand in the world of software and more so in Audio software in recent times, so I completely understand this guys frustration and you should be compassionate to your fellow musicians my guy.

Angstrom wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:41 am

I'm 50, so by the system we are apparently using I get to determine "what we should all think"

My edict is this : Take the noise of the so called "crybabies" and run it through a spectral delay, then through a fancy hybrid reverb with a bit of ensemble effect on it. Release it on SoundCloud and Bandcamp as MetaAmbient art noise. That's it. That's the point. So. Just get on with it.

Now stop hitting each other or you'll go to your rooms. - Dad.