Return Tracks

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DukeOfLizards
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Return Tracks

Post by DukeOfLizards » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:18 am

I already have reductive EQs on my individual tracks but just came across someone mentioning to EQ on Reverb and Delay return tracks as well. Should I EQ return Reverb/Delay tracks? And if so, before or after the actual Return/Reverb device if doing so only to cut unwanted low frequencies that might muddy up the mix? Thanks

Chancery
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Re: Return Tracks

Post by Chancery » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:21 am

Google "the Abbey Road reverb trick" for a few tips and tricks on that subject, and get you started.

DukeOfLizards
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Re: Return Tracks

Post by DukeOfLizards » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:22 pm

Great tip, thanks! Already working nicely. What about the Delay return track? Similar technique? Any recos?

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Re: Return Tracks

Post by Chancery » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:07 am

I personally do pretty much the same with delays. Cut highs and lows to taste. It sounds more natural. Many EQs and Delays already have built-in filters though.

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Re: Return Tracks

Post by DukeOfLizards » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:11 pm

Gotcha. Beyond more refined EQ/frequency control, is there an advantage to using EQ Eight vs the built-in EQ on Ableton's stock Delay plug-in? Especially if just really cutting lows and highs?

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Re: Return Tracks

Post by jestermgee » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:09 pm

Experimentation is always the best way to learn, that's why scientists experiment often.

The "EQ" on the delay is a "filter" to trim low/highs in a single step. Will do the exact same job as an EQ8 set to a Low/High shelf.

You want to EQ a signal before it hits the aeffect because there is no point forcing an effect to process low frequencies when you will trim them off anyway.... unless you need the lows. Reverb and delay you almost always want to get rid of the low end because it's the space of the highs you want to fill.

Where an EQ8 can come in handy (and this always depends on your content and aimed results, there is no actual rules) is if you need to maybe boost a small range at the same time as cutting others to add some space, or notch out some frequencies that are annoying.

Can always be handy to just add an E8 (create racks with it already loaded with your effect) so you can experiment. EQ8 is very useful and lite on resources, well worth adding to every track IMO.

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