Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

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Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by zeropoint » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:21 pm

Just been delving into Live 11 on an M1 Macbook Pro. (16GB Ram, 1 TB)

I'm noticing that, although Live 11 seems to be running a little more efficiently than 10 (I can get dropouts on a large set that 11 handles fine), there are CPU spikes when adding any live device or 3rd party plug in from the browser, even on empty sets. On sets that already have some content these spikes will cause a CPU overload warning. This doesn't happen on 10.

Anyone else ?
MacBook Pro M1, 16GB Ram, 1TB.

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by Funkin8 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:26 pm

On win10 here but am seeing similar, higher than I would expect cpu spikes and the cpu overload marker but when compared to all of my logical processors in the task manager, everything is low as I would expect, I wonder if the calculation live uses is over compensating in some way?

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by toffer » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:36 am

I'm seeing a lot of CPU spikes on my Intel Mac mini (i7, 16GB RAM). Stopping the audio will always prompt a CPU Overload.

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by zeropoint » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:15 pm

Ok, thanks. So I'm not alone. It appears it can happen OS wide and is not processor specific..
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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by grrrz » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:17 pm

haven't installed 11 yet but wasn't there a new feature in live 11 where you could choose how the cpu meter worked; either in peak or RMS mode? that would explain that.
anyway curious to see performance tests with the M1 chip.

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by zeropoint » Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:08 pm

That's right. But I'm seeing the same behaviour for "current" & "average".
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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by KILLMeDJ » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:23 am

Same here.
I'm only using stock plugs with a simple 4 track idea and then I get CPU spikes and the bouncy beach ball of death.
I have to force quit.
Bit of a bummer really.

I had a sneaking suspicion that it may be the RME fireface UCX that I use.
Anybody else having the same issue with the same setup?



OS = BIg Sur 11.1



Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro15,1
Processor Name: 6-Core Intel Core i9
Processor Speed: 2.9 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 6
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 12 MB
Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled
Memory: 32 GB
Last edited by KILLMeDJ on Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by [jur] » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:09 pm

KILLMeDJ wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:23 am
Same here.
I'm only using stock plugs with a simple 4 track idea and then I get CPU spikes and the bouncy beach ball of death.
I have to force quit.
Bit of a bummer really.

I had a sneaking suspicion that it may be the RME fireface UCX that I use.
Anybody else having the same issue with the same setup?

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro15,1
Processor Name: 6-Core Intel Core i9
Processor Speed: 2.9 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 6
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 12 MB
Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled
Memory: 32 GB
You didn't mention which osx version?
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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by KILLMeDJ » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:34 pm

Thanks for pointing that out.
Have edited the original post.

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by IFelix87 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:52 pm

Me too, having the same issue

i just bought a superfast laptop and im very disapointing while recording on my SUITE ABLETON 11. 5. 0
now i see im not the only one, PLEASE ABLETON TEAM GIVE US A FEEDBACK ABOUT THIS
PLEASE thanks!

MacBook Pro (13-inch, M1, 2020)
Apple M1
16GB
1T storage

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by gribbles » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:30 pm

I'll throw my hat into the ring here as well.

Odd CPU spikes during playback - often seems to be when a new instrument is about to play (stock Ableton or plugin). Hitting stop playback *always* causes a spike.

(And, anecdotally, I'm seeing more crash to desktop with 11 on this Mac mini (Intel I7) than I ever did on my old iMac/Ableton10)

Mac mini (2018 - 2020 version)
3.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7
8 GB 2667 MHz DDR4
Big Sur
NI Komplete Audio 6 Interface

I should have bumped the memory when I bought this, but that aside - for the tunes I write, this should't really break into a sweat...but it sometimes feels worse than my old 2012 i5 iMac....

Frustrating.

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by Mark Williams » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:54 pm

Not seeing these issues on my new M1 Mac Mini.
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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by lbros » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:35 pm

I am also seeing the same issue described here. Running Ableton 11, Mac mini (M1, 2020), 8 GB, macOS Big Sur 11.5.2.

Hitting stop playback *always* causes a spike. Spikes happening whenever a new device is added (stock and external plug-ins). Spikes most of the time when a new scene launches.

Has there been any update or feedback at all on this?

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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by Tarekith » Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:10 pm

Unless you’re using the beta version of Live 11, Live is not yet compatible with M1 macs.
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Re: Live 11/ M1 MBP CPU Spikes

Post by scheffkoch » Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:18 pm

…just wait for the m1 native version 11.1…you will be blown away…night and day, really…
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

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