Waves plugins not working with Live 11

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lapieuvre
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Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by lapieuvre » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:12 pm

Hi,

I just realize that none of my Waves Plugins work in Live 11...

They work fine in Cubase and Logic, but when I try to load them in Live, I get this message: VST2 "Sibilance Mono": This VST2 Plug-in is not compatible with Live. It does the same with all my other Waves plug-ins and I just updated my Waves plugins through Waves Central.

Thanks for any help
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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by lapieuvre » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:31 pm

After many researches, contacting support, I still didn't find an answer to my problem.

In the preferences-> Plug-ins Image
Everything is grayed out... I can't rescan plug-Ins.

In Live 10 I see Waves 12.7, but in Live 11 I only see Waves 12.0
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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by Mark Williams » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:38 pm

You have duplicates, remove the duplicates, and force rescan. Ensure you are only installing the latest Waves pugins.
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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by lapieuvre » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:45 pm

Thanks Mark,

It did it ! I removed the WaveShell2-VST 12.0 - component and VST3 from the plug-ins Folder, then Reopened Live and now my plug-ins are loading.

Strange thing though, they still show up as Waves 12.0 in the Browser, but really it loads waves 12.7 plug-ins.

regards.
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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by Mark Williams » Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:26 pm

No problem.
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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by [jur] » Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:58 pm

lapieuvre wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:45 pm
Strange thing though, they still show up as Waves 12.0 in the Browser, but really it loads waves 12.7 plug-ins.
That'd be cool if you could report this to support@ableton.com
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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by rnb0 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:29 pm

Similar issue here. Actually they (Element2 and Smack Attack) DID work with 11 but then when I ran Waves crappy licensing check ("Central"), it updated itself and then it appears to have updated the plugins (though the actual version numbers didn't change.) So stuff worked in 11 until Waves forced a "new" version. Then I got the same message you did. I walked through their poorly documented settings fixes and found some pieces (bundles and shells) with new dates on them in my user/public folders and placed them in my vst folder and rescanned and now the plugins don't even show up under the shell. Because their licensing regimen is so clunky, I went back into Central to see if stuff had become somehow unlicensed but no. I'm pretty done with their stuff because I can't spend a morning trying to get a plugin that I (re)paid for to work. Too bad. The actual product (Element 2) is actually quite handy. But because of the overhead, I'm thinking of buying wavetable to add to my standard 11 setup.

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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by DerFritz » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:43 pm

I have this problem, too, I think. My Waves plugins show up in Live, but I cannot get them into a track.

I'm not clear on the fix. I have 8 versions of WaveShell in my VST3 folder:
WaveShell1-VST3 11.0_x64.vst3
WaveShell2-VST3 11.0_x64.vst3
WaveShell3-VST3 10.0_x64.vst3
WaveShell9-VST3 11.0_x64.vst3
WaveShell1-VST3 12.7_x64.vst3
WaveShell2-VST3 12.0_x64.vst3
WaveShell2-VST3 12.1_x64.vst3
WaveShell1-VST3 12.5_x64.vst3

I tried deleting 12.0 and also all of the 12.x versions, but that did not fix the problem.

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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by ARCBLST » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:48 pm

rnb0 wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:29 pm
Similar issue here. Actually they (Element2 and Smack Attack) DID work with 11 but then when I ran Waves crappy licensing check ("Central"), it updated itself and then it appears to have updated the plugins (though the actual version numbers didn't change.) So stuff worked in 11 until Waves forced a "new" version. Then I got the same message you did. I walked through their poorly documented settings fixes and found some pieces (bundles and shells) with new dates on them in my user/public folders and placed them in my vst folder and rescanned and now the plugins don't even show up under the shell. Because their licensing regimen is so clunky, I went back into Central to see if stuff had become somehow unlicensed but no. I'm pretty done with their stuff because I can't spend a morning trying to get a plugin that I (re)paid for to work. Too bad. The actual product (Element 2) is actually quite handy. But because of the overhead, I'm thinking of buying wavetable to add to my standard 11 setup.
Honestly, this whole licensing application bullshit needs to be done away with. I can clearly see my VSTs from Waves are installed, and licensed, but yet Ableton refuses to cooperate with it. I'm so sick and tired of having to download a bloated application for every single VST company. It fucks with my folder organization, and it's starting to impact my work when it randomly decides that a certain VST just DOESN'T EXIST anymore when I can clearly see the VST and the folder it is in. So done.

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Re: Waves plugins not working with Live 11

Post by carlitopautz » Tue May 31, 2022 6:55 pm

only rescan vst3 system folders

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