Midi 2.0 implementation in Ableton

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Re: Midi 2.0 implementation in Ableton

Post by [erm] » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:42 am

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Re: Midi 2.0 implementation in Ableton

Post by R1V3R5 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:08 am

I have a guitar synth pickup that gets in some ghost notes when i play which is pretty frustrating and why i dont use it much. What kind of memory allocation is needed for a midi 2.0 configuration?

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Re: Midi 2.0 implementation in Ableton

Post by R1V3R5 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:18 am

separate pitch bend for every key
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2QxFnsKWMQ

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Re: Midi 2.0 implementation in Ableton

Post by pottering » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:51 am

This other video from the same YouTube channel (it is the official MIDI Association YT channel) implies Apple, Microsoft and Google have to implement MIDI 2.0 in their their Operating Systems before the software running in those OSes can truly implement it as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kky1nlwz8-8&t=1280s

(From around the 21:20 mark)

Also, not sure there are even class-compliant MIDI 2.0 USB drivers for Windows or Mac yet for any USB hardware to interface with MIDI 2.0 in software.

I also read people saying there are no specs for the actual MIDI 2.0 files, that is, there is no standard yet to how MIDI 2.0 notes and CC should be recorded, so no DAW or sequencer can implement it (kinda the whole point of MIDI in a DAW is recording and sequencing, but even real-time manipulation may not be possible yet).
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Re: Midi 2.0 implementation in Ableton

Post by Mark Williams » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:48 am

Trevbo wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:42 am
if you don't like it then dont reply to my post.

Like a previous forum member recently told you, your an ass.
Ah yes the resort to personal attacks, maybe take a hint from your own advice, dont reply if you do not like others opinions,thoughts and facts.
Resorting to personal attacks is never wise, or best step forward, sorry but I will not be dragged down to your level there fella!
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Re: Midi 2.0 implementation in Ableton

Post by Mark Williams » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:51 am

pottering wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:51 am
This other video from the same YouTube channel (it is the official MIDI Association YT channel) implies Apple, Microsoft and Google have to implement MIDI 2.0 in their their Operating Systems before the software running in those OSes can truly implement it as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kky1nlwz8-8&t=1280s

(From around the 21:20 mark)

Also, not sure there are even class-compliant MIDI 2.0 USB drivers for Windows or Mac yet for any USB hardware to interface with MIDI 2.0 in software.

I also read people saying there are no specs for the actual MIDI 2.0 files, that is, there is no standard yet to how MIDI 2.0 notes and CC should be recorded, so no DAW or sequencer can implement it (kinda the whole point of MIDI in a DAW is recording and sequencing, but even real-time manipulation may not be possible yet).
Looks like developers/early adopters have a long way/wait ahead of them. Will be interesting once it gets widely accepted, but will take a good number of years yet. In the meantime, I'm happy with MPE for now :)
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