Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by hughjass » Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:19 pm

Yeah I did that before I opened 11.1. I'll check again to make sure I copied everything over correctly.

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by josefreak » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:05 pm

After installing 11.1, some of my vsts won't load, most of my shortcuts (collections) are broken, and my default template is throwing errors because it can't find vsts. This is not the kind of thing you want to see with a minor update. Ugh

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by Stormchild » Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:41 am

Update: I got this working by:
  • Rebooting my machine. This brought back the "Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1" device, which is the one that needs to be selected as the control surface Input and Output. That got the transport controls working, but I still couldn't navigate tracks/clips with the arrow buttons.
  • To get track/clip navigation working again, I had to switch the AU version of the required plugin ("Komplete Kontrol AU.adg"). The VST version always worked fine before, but now it just doesn't. I tested it many times…only the AU version will work. What's weird is the plugin itself works fine (in the VST version). It's just the host integration (track/clip navigation with arrow buttons) that doesn't work.
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After updating to Ableton Live 11.1, none of the host integration features are working on my Komplete Kontrol S49 mk1.
  • Transport controls don't work
  • I can no longer navigate between tracks or clips
  • My keyboard does not switch between MIDI and NKS mode when I switch tracks in Live.
I installed the Komplete Kontrol remote script in Ableton Live's package contents (same as always), and I can still see and configure "Komplete Kontrol Mk1" as a control surface in Live, with "Komplete Kontrol S49 (Port 1)" selected for both Input and Output. And yes, I have the "Komplete Kontrol VST.adg" device loaded on a MIDI track. Everything is exactly the same as before…it just doesn't work.

I can manually switch between MIDI and NKS modes, but not being able to switch tracks or use the transport controls is a pretty big problem.

I don't see why it would be an NI issue, since it worked fine in Ableton Live 11.0.x.
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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by [jur] » Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:07 am

cids wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:47 pm
hughjass wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:23 pm
I'm currently experiencing issues with the new Live 11.1 update.

CPU meter and general playback is laggy/freezes quite often when doing normal tasks on a small project. The same project plays/works fine in Ableton Live Beta 11.1b11.

Running a Mac Pro 2019 with Big Sur.

I'm curious if anyone else is experiencing this?
Make sure you check your audio settings, Live 11.1 will not transfer over your beta settings so check if settings are the same for 11.1 and 11.1b11
Also make sure that you installed the intel build, not the universal one.
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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by Calagan » Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:21 am

[jur] wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:07 am
Also make sure that you installed the intel build, not the universal one.
Why ?
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... 5259263250
On this page, they say to install the universal binary on any mac from Mojave to Monterey.
Apple Intel build is "High Sierra only".

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by Calagan » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:42 am

Ok all.

I finally installed the Universal binary version of 11.1 on my old mid-2012 macbook pro (running Catalina).
I didn't have any issue, no plugin was missing (after a quite long re-scanning : I've got a lot of plugins). More importantly, I noticed what seems to be a little improvement in stability and CPU use.
And the new features of 11.1 are very welcomed (for exemple the new clip window, or the fact you can take the devices that are used on a track from the browser view).

Excellent update for me !
Thanks Ableton...

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by hughjass » Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:46 pm

Update on my Beta vs release issue.

The beta still continues to be more stable for me than the release. I used the universal installer via ableton.

Opening the same project in Beta I get 45% CPU load and on the release version I get 65% and cpu overload indicators.

I'm not sure why this is, but I'll continue using the beta until they perform similarly.

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by Calagan » Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:13 pm

hughjass wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:46 pm
Update on my Beta vs release issue.

The beta still continues to be more stable for me than the release. I used the universal installer via ableton.

Opening the same project in Beta I get 45% CPU load and on the release version I get 65% and cpu overload indicators.

I'm not sure why this is, but I'll continue using the beta until they perform similarly.
Did you wait so it scanned your whole plugin collection ?

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by cids » Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:06 am

hughjass wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:46 pm
Update on my Beta vs release issue.

The beta still continues to be more stable for me than the release. I used the universal installer via ableton.

Opening the same project in Beta I get 45% CPU load and on the release version I get 65% and cpu overload indicators.

I'm not sure why this is, but I'll continue using the beta until they perform similarly.
This doesn't sound right, are you sure that your audio settings are the same in 11.1 beta and 11.1 release?
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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by [jur] » Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:36 pm

cids wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:06 am
hughjass wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:46 pm
Update on my Beta vs release issue.

The beta still continues to be more stable for me than the release. I used the universal installer via ableton.

Opening the same project in Beta I get 45% CPU load and on the release version I get 65% and cpu overload indicators.

I'm not sure why this is, but I'll continue using the beta until they perform similarly.
This doesn't sound right, are you sure that your audio settings are the same in 11.1 beta and 11.1 release?
Are you also sure that the release version isn't set to launch in Rosetta?
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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by travismc1 » Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:51 pm

josefreak wrote:
Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:05 pm
After installing 11.1, some of my vsts won't load, most of my shortcuts (collections) are broken, and my default template is throwing errors because it can't find vsts. This is not the kind of thing you want to see with a minor update. Ugh

Windows 10
I have had this same problem. Windows 10. Ryzen 2700x. 64 gb ram. ssd-nvme. My work around is delete the offenders from the template, resave the template. Close the program / reopen. Then when the system rescans all of my VSTs, I reapply the VSTs... resave the template... it's weird but it worked.
I have drunk the Kool-Aid - Apple Macbook Pro M1pro and Mac Studio M1max and it's worth it. MOTU / Focusrite interfaces. Ableton Live 11, ProTools,

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by hughjass » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:40 am

[jur] wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:36 pm
cids wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:06 am
hughjass wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:46 pm
Update on my Beta vs release issue.

The beta still continues to be more stable for me than the release. I used the universal installer via ableton.

Opening the same project in Beta I get 45% CPU load and on the release version I get 65% and cpu overload indicators.

I'm not sure why this is, but I'll continue using the beta until they perform similarly.
This doesn't sound right, are you sure that your audio settings are the same in 11.1 beta and 11.1 release?
Are you also sure that the release version isn't set to launch in Rosetta?

How do you know if it's set to launch in Rosetta?

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by cids » Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:39 am

Mac Studio M2 Max and MacBook Pro M1

Genelec M030; Live 11.3.x and Live 12; macOS Sonoma

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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by twolegstoneworks » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:29 am

I've just submitted a report of the LFO device not working in 11.1 on Windows 10. It loads fine, but it cant map to anything...

Can anyone else confirm this?
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Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...

Post by luxxury » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:35 pm

[jur] wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:20 pm
Ronzoni, read this. :wink:
My God thank you for this it was driving me insane - I wasted hours trying to figure out what the hell was going on with all my missing VSTs.
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