Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

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Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by bzwlf » Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:37 am

Hey,

I've updated Live to 11.2 and since then I've got an issue with the Expression control device. It cannot remember mapping after saving a project and opening it again (see an example attached, if I manage to add pictures to this post). I checked several times with several different projects. It's very problematic for me as I use it a lot, including on some projects I use for live performances. How can I fix this? Otherwise, how can I go back to Live 11? Or could it be a Max for live issue?

Expression Control before saving (live 11) : https://ibb.co/qpkJ9dw
Same Expression Control device after saving (live 11.2) : https://ibb.co/XfH4P5w

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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by [jur] » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:17 am

Yep, it's a known issue.
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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by bzwlf » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:49 pm

found some kind of workaround :

If you group your Expression Control device then mapping reappears. So I select the device, do a quick cmd + G then cmd + Z (I'm on Mac) and it's back...not something I want to do when performing live on multiple devices but reassuring to know it's still there somehow

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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by Riggar » Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:31 pm

Yes been getting this AND previous version as well but less so.
Thanks for posting that workaround - I'll try it out.

It worked and sorted it out for all tracks.
Come on Ableton sort this very basic problem out.

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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by Korhan » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:46 pm

Yes, I can confirm this and it really sucks...

It's incredible how Live is always buggy.... I've been using it since 2005 and it has never been completely dependable.
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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by onia » Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:05 am

This is happening for me too. I have an alternative method to the rack grouping to return the mapping which is deleting and undoing the device. I hope they fix this soon.

Also, the expression control in the max for live essentials pack does not do this.

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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by alzadude » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:06 am

Is this still not fixed yet? I'm on 11.2.6 :/

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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by Korhan » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:51 am

Looks like it'll be fixed in 11.2.10
Last edited by Korhan on Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by jeromefaria » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:21 pm

Can confirm it is fixed on 11.2.10.

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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by Korhan » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:31 pm

Great news! Thank you for the confirmation
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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by [jur] » Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:02 pm

Well, there's a new quite annoying issue with the device:
Aftertouch input will get cut off by any midi coming from the modwheel or pitch bend...
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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by Korhan » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pm

oh... that's not good.
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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by MelodyObjects » Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:44 pm

I am having this issue intermittently with 11.3.13

It can be fine for several days, then I load a session and all of my mappings under Parameter on Expression Control are blank. Deleting and undoing does fix it, but this isn't great when you're in a live situation!!

I'm using the old one which has blue highlights. The latest one, when using note velocity, doesn't revert to 0 when the note ends, it just stays at the last value. Perhaps I am missing something?

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Re: Expression Control device malfunction since 11.2

Post by [jur] » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:27 pm

Please report to Support.
The device has been rebuilt from the ground up in L12, but it needs to be fixed for those who won't upgrade.
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