A friend sent me some stems, and one of them is a stem from the drum machine they used to jam along with. The drum machine was set to 142 bpm. I created a Live project and set the bpm to 142. I then lined up the stem (i.e. clip) so that the first beat (kick transient) was on the grid (warp turned off). Why is it drifting off the grid over time?
Why do the transients drift off the grid?
Re: Why do the transients drift off the grid?
Just for sh!ts and giggles, I tried 143 bpm, and it was in sync longer but eventually drifted. So is it possible that a digital drum machine's bpm isn't accurate?
Re: Why do the transients drift off the grid?
Well, I think the issue is based on the drum machine that my friend used. It's fairly old and I think the bpm resolution isn't as good as computers today. Seems weird, because it is a digital machine. But I added a few decimal points to the bpm and the transients stayed on the grid for a lot longer.
A youtuber helped me figure this out. He's got a great channel. You should check it out
https://www.youtube.com/c/LucasMessore
A youtuber helped me figure this out. He's got a great channel. You should check it out
https://www.youtube.com/c/LucasMessore
Re: Why do the transients drift off the grid?
Alot of midi devices have bad clocks so it is most likely clock drift.josefreak wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:24 pmWell, I think the issue is based on the drum machine that my friend used. It's fairly old and I think the bpm resolution isn't as good as computers today. Seems weird, because it is a digital machine. But I added a few decimal points to the bpm and the transients stayed on the grid for a lot longer.
A youtuber helped me figure this out. He's got a great channel. You should check it out
https://www.youtube.com/c/LucasMessore
Softsynths tend to have better timing from what I remember because they go off of an audio clock which requires tighter timing. One of the main pros thar was mentioned to using soft synths when I started using them in 2003. Doesn't really get talked about much these days.
Re: Why do the transients drift off the grid?
This is definitely what was going on here. Even though the drum machine was at a set tempo, its clock drifted causing the band to drift with it. I tried lining it all up again with warp markers, but then the instruments sounded like crap, so I gave up.jlgrimes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:16 pmAlot of midi devices have bad clocks so it is most likely clock drift.josefreak wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:24 pmWell, I think the issue is based on the drum machine that my friend used. It's fairly old and I think the bpm resolution isn't as good as computers today. Seems weird, because it is a digital machine. But I added a few decimal points to the bpm and the transients stayed on the grid for a lot longer.
A youtuber helped me figure this out. He's got a great channel. You should check it out
https://www.youtube.com/c/LucasMessore
Softsynths tend to have better timing from what I remember because they go off of an audio clock which requires tighter timing. One of the main pros thar was mentioned to using soft synths when I started using them in 2003. Doesn't really get talked about much these days.
Re: Why do the transients drift off the grid?
Try turning off Warping for that clip, does the drifting go away?
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