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Kontakt 2 with Live?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:16 pm
by Per Boysen
Is anyone using Kontakt 2 with Live? Comments?

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:55 am
by rozling
Been using it for a month or two now - I found it a bit unintuitive when setting up audio/midi routings for multiple Kontakt instruments in Live, but after someone here helped me out I've found that side fine.

Haven't delved much into its crazy mangling properties though, just using it as a sound module atm. I know people have had various issues with Kontakt 2 (not necesssarily in Live), but bear in mind there's been an update in the last month or so.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:19 pm
by d-plate
There is a Kontakt 2 already? ooooooooooooh

Time to max out credit card...

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:15 pm
by Sales Dude McBoob
Yeah- I've had it for a couple months. I agree that it's not the most intuitive interface out there... but a lot the sounds are sweet.

A few of the orchestral sounds fall into the catagory of "it sounds like the instrument in the room with you, not a computer". There are very very few sounds out there that fall into that catagory. It doesn't hurt that a lot of the sounds come from the Vienna Symphonic Library.

This module gets 2 thumbs up from me.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:40 pm
by Per Boysen
I read on the NI site that K2 supports surround mixing - that's cool! It has decicated surround fx plug-ins liks surround step filter etc. I hope I can spare the dough to pick it up before the deal times out.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:48 pm
by Abzurd
Kontakt 2 & Live are amazing together I use them on almost everything I do now!

The sounds that come with Kontakt are outstanding and easy to access (not like earlier versions of Knotakt).

The fact that it includes sounds from the Vienna Symphonic Library is worth the price of admission.

http://www.vsl.co.at/english/pages/prof ... _demos.htm

If you instruments in your songs that sound like real instruments it's definetly the way to go.

ABZurd

Re: Kontakt 2 with Live?

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:06 pm
by rockstar
I've been using K2 with Live a bunch and it's lots of fun. K2's "Outputs" section is great: basically you can have one track in Live as MIDI input and then create output channels for different groups within an instrument. On drums, for example, you edit in one MIDI track but send each group (ie - drum sound) to a different output and pick each up in a different live track. This lets you filter and effect each drum sound separately in live (flanging just the hats, for example). It's genius. Oh, yeah, the sound library is excellent as well.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:44 pm
by tribalogical
here too... Kontakt 2 + Live 5 = awesome combination.

great additions to the sample libs as well. The included "lite" version of the Vienna Symphony Library is a huge value alone...

I heard NI is offering a 50% off special on K2 through August... if you're going to do it anyway, there's no better time to leap than now.........

peace,
tribalogical

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:54 pm
by Per Boysen
tribalogical wrote: 50% off special on K2 through August... if you're going to do it anyway, there's no better time to leap than now.........l
Yeah, I qualify for that offer since I already own the East-West Gold Symph library with the Kompakt player. I already have a good sampler with Logic (EXS24) but I'd like to use the fine EXS24 library with Live as well and this K2 deal seems to be the way to go. Will probably be doing more surround stuff in the future and the K2 plug-ins are looking very interesting. Thank you everyone for all the advice. Hope I will be able to save up the money for this K2 offer ;-)

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:56 am
by Gigatron
I recently sold my emu 6400 ultra and converted all my sample libraries over to Kontakt 2... that should tell you something. :D

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:50 pm
by Urbem
Is it possible to load multiple instruments and assign them to different track in Live with just one VST instance of Kontakt ??

re: k2 in live 5

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:49 pm
by rockstar
Is it possible to load multiple instruments and assign them to different track in Live with just one VST instance of Kontakt ??
Yes. You can use the "Outputs" section to create multiple output channels (I think the K2 update actually gives you version with 8 outs and 16 outs). You then assign instruments and groups to the different output channels in K2. Now you can pick up each output on a separate track in Live.

So you have 1 MIDI track (or more) going into K2 from Live
You have instruments and groups mapped to different outputs in K2
You have separate audio tracks pick up the K2 outputs in Live.

It works great on drums, for example, where you can have 1 MIDI input tracks and then filter and effect each drum sound separately in Live (flanging just the hats, or compressing just the snare, for example).

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:11 pm
by Sales Dude McBoob
Yes. You can use the "Outputs" section to create multiple output channels (I think the K2 update actually gives you version with 8 outs and 16 outs). You then assign instruments and groups to the different output channels in K2. Now you can pick up each output on a separate track in Live
Sweet. I gotta give this a hack when I get home... in 9 hours :x


K2 is good stuff but if it came down to it I'd rather have Reaktor 5.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:36 am
by dave999z
Anyone tried Battery 2 with Live 5?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:37 am
by d-plate
dave999z wrote:Anyone tried Battery 2 with Live 5?
Me :D works fine :wink: But for most of my simple drum patterns I use Impulse... not that much of a CPU hog. Tho if I wanna process my drums a bit more, I bring out Battery!