PSP VintageWarmer

krank · Post by **krank** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:32 am

Downloaded a demo of this, enticed by comments here,

I have to admit I like it, but's kind of expensive for my broke ass.

Is there another, less costly solution to add this kind of 'warmth + oompf' to my tracks?

Would also like input different ways to use it, like what instruments do you think it goes best with, mastering vs. individual tracks, etc. Anything, really.

Best regards all.

Shoma · Post by **Shoma** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:03 pm

I think its universal! Personally i use ot on bass and drums bus mix. But when i need to master some stuff, i use Vintage warmer with C4 multiband compressor

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:25 pm

krank, try a mixture of Ableton Saturator followed by the free W1 limiter @ http://yohng.com/w1limit.html
not the same solution as Vintage Warmer, but capable of similar results.

and if you do end up buying PSP VW, audiomidi.com has it for $135
http://www.audiomidi.com/Vintage-Warmer-P3818.aspx

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:36 pm

I found I got exactly the same results with Compressor II and EQ.

With less latency.

I'm now using a Multidynamic plug from Wavearts and very happy.

-Ben

Macrostructure · Post by **Macrostructure** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:35 pm

yes, but it hasn't got a big knob

Spacerboy · Post by **Spacerboy** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:10 pm

Macrostructure wrote:yes, but it hasn't got a big knob

better a big knob than big nibbles hoahoahoahoa....

ebencarlson · Post by **ebencarlson** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:32 am

Hi Krank.

I love the Vintage Warmer and am on a budget as well. They do have a student discount if you're in school. I seem to remember someone putting one up for sale reasonably cheap on the KVRaudio website as well.

Cheers

montrealbreaks · Post by **montrealbreaks** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:30 am

I can't say enough about the Vintage warmer.

Watch out with it though as a mastering tool - it's EASY to overuse it.

That said, it's my personal favourite. I like Ozone Izotope too, but honestly the Vintage warmer is simpler, and if you use it with eq4, then the only thing you're lacking is stereo width enhancement.

krank · Post by **krank** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:34 am

Thanks everyone for taking the time to help me out.

Those of you who use the VintageWarmer, what settings do you like for mastering?

Adam, I've been trying out the Saturator + W1 combo you mentioned. How do I tweak those two, if I want that slight, warm energy boost? I've had the Saturator on 'light' and the W1 is a minus couple db ceiling, that's all.

I've been trying out the Ruby Tube as well, but it doesn't seem to work as a conventional limiter - volume tends to go in the red though it's supposed to cut off at 0 dB? Not so with the W1, it has a strict ceiling.

roby · Post by **roby** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:11 pm

http://hem.bredband.net/tbtaudio/entrance.html

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:14 pm

roby wrote:http://hem.bredband.net/tbtaudio/entrance.html

windows only? dag....

roby · Post by **roby** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:27 pm

Aaaah, crappers!! Yeah, so sorry. ANd they are soo good

serotoninsteve · Post by **serotoninsteve** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:30 pm

Thanx for the link, never seen them!
They look the nuts.

For a bit warmth you could also try dominion, perhaps put the w1 before.

http://www.digitalfishphones.com

Greetings

montrealbreaks · Post by **montrealbreaks** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:32 pm

krank wrote:Thanks everyone for taking the time to help me out.

Those of you who use the VintageWarmer, what settings do you like for mastering?

Adam, I've been trying out the Saturator + W1 combo you mentioned. How do I tweak those two, if I want that slight, warm energy boost? I've had the Saturator on 'light' and the W1 is a minus couple db ceiling, that's all.

I've been trying out the Ruby Tube as well, but it doesn't seem to work as a conventional limiter - volume tends to go in the red though it's supposed to cut off at 0 dB? Not so with the W1, it has a strict ceiling.

It depends on your material, but here's something to start with.

Use it in stereo, with the link on, and with multi band.
Set your Drive to around +2 db
Set your ceiling to -1 db and set your output to around +0.99 db
Set your Low and High to around +1 or +2
Set your release to x4, and your speed around 50

Flip the display over.

Set your low release slower and your high release faster.

Now slowly adjust your knee upwards from 0, and move the speed around, listening for pumping or flattened drums. Use the high and low knobs as EQs. I put my band filters (labeled "Freq") at around 200-250 for low, and around 2000-3000 for high.

Setting the drive changes the distortion. For really clean or minimal stuff, use a lower knee and more drive. For fuller arrangements, use less drive (or you'll get mush).
Use the ceiling and output controls so that they're acting as a 3 band limiter. Remember, keep the Output just slightly less than the ceiling. If it's higher, you'll clip! (Though not nearly as serious as clipping, if the output is significantly lower than the ceiling, then you're not outputing a normalized signal...)

I often use around 2 db limiting, but that depends on your mix. Always start with minimal mastering settings and gradually push them up. Then, when you THINK you have it good, walk away and come back tomorrow. You'll do a fine adjustment, most likely using a little LESS compression / limiting.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:09 pm

montrealbreaks wrote:I can't say enough about the Vintage warmer.

Watch out with it though as a mastering tool - it's EASY to overuse it.

That said, it's my personal favourite. I like Ozone Izotope too, but honestly the Vintage warmer is simpler, and if you use it with eq4, then the only thing you're lacking is stereo width enhancement.

i have found the izotope ozone along with the PSP vintage warmer is HOT!! chain order: ozone>PSP sounds better...

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