Chris J wrote:[.
I listened to the track, and sorry but don't find it funky at all
I am sorry to say but there is absolutely no trace of anything funky in this tune, I am not judging quality or whatever, I am funk junkie since 30 years so know exactly what i am talking about. Sorry nothing personal but it is obvious, that tune is a perfect example of people not understanding what funk is/ was. I do not have time to elaborate on certain technical details it is a big subject. Good funk requires top musicianship, absolute control over instrument, time, music in general. and the ... funk, the feel. Someone who cant hear the differerence between montreals tune ( sorry for hijacking your tune as example, you are doing fine, good work even though no funky) and say P-Funk has a long way to learn but possible also never get it. Having over 20 years of experience auditioning musicians I know some thing will/can never be learned
So better check the Meters, Clintons bands, drummers like Dennis Chambers or Sly Dunbar, if you dont feel or hear the difference, forget about it, it is different taste true, just seems to me that machinate, montreal are not talking different taste but completely different "food" that the name "funk" is associated with something else.
Regarding quantise- funk or groove are built on the base of tensions/ releases, which have to have a point- very precise of reference. Sometimes it may be "invisible" unheard so to non musician it may appear,"free" or loose while in reality it is extremly precisely defined.
The scientist Ernst Cholakis made some interesting research on the subject. Analising the groove templates, opening them in editor is fascinating. Specially tricky are Jamaican rhythms which superficially seem very loose inacurate while they have amazing "inconsistently consistent" quality. There is more mathematic in the music then the no musicians or amateurs might think, what may appear easy and simple on the surface might be highly sophisticated.
The main point is that real musicians are much more precise then the machines, good guitarist can tune a guitar much faster by ear then the best electronic tuner. Technology gets better but I often have to pull out hardware sequencer while working with the rhythmically advanced artists because pc or mac are still too sloppy. BT is not mad hating midi so much, midi sucks most of the time.