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René Descartes would use Ableton Live
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:20 pm
by AdamJay
discuss!!!!
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:22 pm
by corygilbert
brings new meaning to descarte's error.
Good book about cognative brain function.
didn't think i'd have anything to add to this discussion, but well....there it is.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:16 pm
by borg
probably a cracked version...
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:30 pm
by conny
Descartes felt he had to "save" the soul from the material/body world in a time when science had started to get into most things.
And I guess he was "right", in the sense that Newton and cause/effect and later Darwin do not give meaning to the things that are valuable for us.
I've read the book about the mistake of Descartes.
I agree that the separation of body/mind/soul is misleading. (But might be effective and economic in an industrial world...)
And of course, Ableton Live is the tool to get it all together again...
// C
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:11 pm
by peeddrroo
well, René Descartes invented the orange dot in the first place...
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:14 pm
by amo
peeddrroo wrote:well, René Descartes invented the orange dot in the first place...
That is true, but I'm sure he would have written a much more rationnal user manual to show evidence of its logic behaviour....
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:23 pm
by AdamJay
i love this forum.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:25 pm
by amo
AdamJay wrote:i love this forum.
Yeah it's like the more freaky the topic is, the more answers you get from very thoughtfull people
... Weird !
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:28 pm
by conny
René Descartes died on February 11, 1650 in Stockholm, Sweden, where he had been invited as a teacher for Queen Christina of Sweden. The cause of death was said to be pneumonia - accustomed to working in bed till noon, he may have suffered a detrimental effect on his health due to Christina's demands for early morning study. However, letters to and from the doctor Eike Pies have recently been discovered which indicate that Descartes may have been poisoned using arsenic.
Arsenic... that previuos Ableton wall paper green color...
// C
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:28 pm
by AdamJay
any readers of Fritjof Capra here?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:30 pm
by conny
Descartes arrives at only a single principle: if I am being deceived, then surely "I" must exis
Yes, read Capra.
// C
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:39 pm
by AdamJay
i love Capra.
John Heard & Liv Ullmann were in an exceptional movie called
"Mindwalk" which was largely based on Capra's book "The Turning Point".
It really helps to put a contemporary context into the shit Capra thought with regards to Systems Theory. Explains alot of the chaos the world is going through today as well. And in its own right, the movie shows how awesome conversation can be. reminds me of alot of enlightening conversations i've had years ago.
anyone else seen this movie?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:44 pm
by madlab
A novel by Lydia Salvayre has just benn published in france, it's called 'the mila method' and it's about a guy who is trying to apply the principles of Descartes to everyday life just to find this is bullshit...
What did I mean
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:27 pm
by conny
AdamJay wrote:i love Capra.
John Heard & Liv Ullmann were in an exceptional movie called
"Mindwalk" which was largely based on Capra's book "The Turning Point".
anyone else seen this movie?
Can't find it at my local video/DVD store.
Would like to.
// C
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:32 pm
by conny
Capra:
http://www.eurac.edu/Press/Academia/8/Artikel4.asp
Mind and matter no longer appear to belong to two separate categories, but can be seen as representing two complementary aspects of the phenomenon of life - the process aspect and the structure aspect.
http://bluemoose.greatnow.com/Live/Tunes/splonkdonk.mp3
// C