Pocket Dial is the answer!!!

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FrankH
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Pocket Dial is the answer!!!

Post by FrankH » Sat Mar 02, 2002 2:56 pm

To all,

WOW, yerterday i got my self the Doepfer Pocket Dial.
This realy is the ultimate controler.
16 Knobs, 4 Banks, 16 MIDI chanels = 1024! controlers on one single unit.
For controling AL (Ableton Live) i use Preset 111, dipswitches to 0111 0110.

Stop looking for midi controlers, get a pocket dial (No, i'm not a Doepfer Salesman).
I've been looking for a 4-controll, milennium, phat-boy, all these unit's were not what i was looking for.
But this unit is the solution for diehard Live users like me.

Best regards,

Frank Heijkamp

Dom

What makes it special?

Post by Dom » Tue Mar 05, 2002 10:25 am

What makes the thing so good comparing to others? For example compared to Phat Boy?

FrankH
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A revolution in controling

Post by FrankH » Tue Mar 05, 2002 8:26 pm

I got a Phat-Boy for a couple of years now, and beleve me Pocket Dial is a revolution.

Pockte Dial has endles knobs, Phat-Boy doesn't. This is the fundamental difference.
Everyone likes to have as many knobs as possible.
Changing to an other midichannel will give access to more knobs.
CH 1 knob 1-13, CH 2 knob 14-26, etc.
But there is one problem. The knobs of the phat-boy stay in the same position.
Lets say you set knob 3 to a value of 40.
Switch to CH 2 and knob 16 which was knob 3 before, it will start to send at a value of 40 and go up, but in Live knob 16 has got a value of let's say 80, so there is a problem. The knob does not react the way you would like it to do. It will make a jump from 80 to 40 and then go up on turning right, instead of starting at 80 and going up on turning right.
The pocket dial and other controlers sending relative values, don't send an absolute value of 40 but send a + or -.
So knob 16 will start at 80 and go up on turning right. The knob is reacting as expected.
Changing the channel will give many knobs with immediate natural respons. Like automatic updating moving faders.

Too much talking, just try it, i promisse you'll like it.

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Post by radib » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:42 am

its perfect, especially for abl. live. built very solid, flexible in configuring and nice working endless-rotary-function.

and one layer with 16 knobs clearly fits two rack-modules (a 8 knobs) in live.
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Post by oblique strategies » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:05 am

Yes, the Pocket Dial is excellent.

I plan on changing the LEDs in mine so that each of the four banks has a unique colour.

That one change will make it somewhat more intuitive to use in live performances.

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Post by koneko » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:40 am

its all very much sold out... any tip to where can you get the pocket dial these days?
(europe..? germany.?)

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Post by Dr Dub » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:33 pm

they are quite often on ebay

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Re: Pocket Dial is the answer!!!

Post by Macrostructure » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:45 pm

FrankH wrote:To all,

WOW, yerterday i got my self the Doepfer Pocket Dial.
This realy is the ultimate controler.
16 Knobs, 4 Banks, 16 MIDI chanels = 1024! controlers on one single unit.
For controling AL (Ableton Live) i use Preset 111, dipswitches to 0111 0110.

Stop looking for midi controlers, get a pocket dial (No, i'm not a Doepfer Salesman).
I've been looking for a 4-controll, milennium, phat-boy, all these unit's were not what i was looking for.
But this unit is the solution for diehard Live users like me.

Best regards,

Frank Heijkamp
no mate, this below is the ultimate MIDI controller...thank you

koneko
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Post by koneko » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:50 pm

funny to go on with a thread from 2002 . . .

anyway, i got the pocket dial! pretty cool
i want to try it with instant mapping. am i right if i think i should emulate an oxygen or remote sl ? what CC should i send from the pocket dial then ?

another rather noob question, i didnt understand what the program change is actually doing.

thanks for the help

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