Beatcreator v. LiveSlice

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ajstrax
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Beatcreator v. LiveSlice

Post by ajstrax » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:54 pm

Any recommendations here? Which is the best beatslicer? Thanks...

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Post by Machinate » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:36 pm

phatmatik pro... sorry ;)
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Post by ajstrax » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:18 pm

Nice! :D Have you used the other two programs? Why do you use Phatmatik Pro? Thanks Machinate...

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Post by Moody » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:46 pm

Score!
Ableton’s engineers are hard
at work developing code that will allow our software to predict the future, but we don’t
anticipate having this available until at least the next major release.

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Post by Machinate » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:20 pm

phatmatik is compact, quick, and you can do some seriously cool stuff, like grabbing the midi file for a beat and dragging into live, just like that thing in dr.Rex in Reason, that sends the sequence to the sequencer... awesome. It has 4 outs as well. And I just love the way it dynamically assigns hits to your midi notes... delete it, and the next one comes in.... And it has pendulum playback, which I sorely miss in most software samplers :D
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Post by Moody » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:22 pm

Just downloaded the demo and need to read the manuel or something but Phatmatik looks hot. If I get it figured out it is going on the Xmas list for sure. Thanks Machinate!
Ableton’s engineers are hard
at work developing code that will allow our software to predict the future, but we don’t
anticipate having this available until at least the next major release.

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Post by starving student » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:24 pm

Machinenate could you explain a little more about what you mean by dynamic allocation of midi notes i don't think i understood well.

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Post by Machinate » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:06 pm

load up a sample that has 8 hits. When they're sliced they'll be assigned c2, c#2.... g2. Now, let's say you want the c#2 hit to be together with the c2 key, you delete the c#2 by alt-clicking the line that marks the start of the hit. Now the next hit becomes c#2 instead. Brilliant. And it works the other way too, insert more chops, and all the subsequent assignments change accordingly.
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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:30 pm

I just bought phatmatik pro, it's my absolutely most favorite tool in ableton 5 now. using that and operator on everything! and I've got a shite load of plugs but those 2 just seem to show up everywhere. it's brilliant and simple and very low on cpu.
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by ajstrax » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:35 pm

Great - the demo is sick and works well within L5. :D Thanks for the reply Machinate...

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Post by eyeknow » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:11 pm

I going to check pmp myself, but I have to put in a "two thumbs up, way up" for beatcreator.

The main thing is how accurate the slicing is. I have had great luck with very very precise cuting/pasting and although I'm sure phatmatirix does this, you can select it to be "the" editor in live.

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Post by eyeknow » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:21 pm

here's something interesting..........

http://www.livelab.dk/products.php

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Post by ajstrax » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:01 pm

eyeknow - I checked out the beatcreator demo and it seems tight. I like it better than phatmatik because phatmatik's interface is tiny and hard to see! 8O I'd like to read more about beatcreator but there seems to be very little support from zero-x. If you buy BC, do you get a downloadable manual or anything? Thanks...

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Post by eyeknow » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:21 am

The answer is no, sadly

zero-x is a good company I believe, but the manual is sorely lacking.

It's bizarre to endorse something at this price w/o the docs, but like you said, it's tight!

Sorry I don't have a better answer.............. :oops:

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Post by starving student » Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:02 am

thanks Machinate i get it now, that is a nice feature.

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