OSX on my PC!

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Post by kenn michael » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:26 am

true, and even the Altiverb guys have said that it's not a total disaster to update their flagship plugin that uses Altivec exclusively to Intel/SSE.

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Post by Angstrom » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:53 am

well, I dont code that deep myself - I can only go on what I've been told by those that do. It depends on how you programmed your app, what tools and whether you understand how to get the same performance out of SSE. A re-learning process.

anyway.

I noticed this and thought it might interest people in this thread.
Latest intel p4s will allow you two run two OSes at once - giving both access to the core functions.
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2005N ... 033293.htm
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/ ... 14comp.htm

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Post by noisetonepause » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:38 am

buzzcock wrote:This "transition" is going to be nothing short of a f**king mess, at least for a while... I can just feel it. :?
I really don't think so. RME already have Intel OSX drivers on their site...

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Post by jasefos » Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:06 am

The transition from legacy MacOS to MacOSX was painful enough for most professional musicians.

At least the software you have today will run on the computer and operating system you have today. If your system is "enough" for you to work comfortably now you potentially could carry on running MacOSX PCC systems and software for many years to come. In 5 years time I'm sure second-hand Dual 2.5Ghz G5's will change hands very inexpensively which will mean you'll be able to afford a spare system for backup parts (once supplies of parts eventually dry up). The key is to keep an existing system well maintained.

Things aren't all rosy on the other side of the platform fence either. Significant changes to the Windows platform are ahead with Microsoft releasing Windows Vista (sometime).

On my music dedicated PC DAW I continued to run Windows 98 right up until 2002 (although on my graphics and general purpose system I adopted Windows 2000 as soon as it became available). There's no way I'll rush into Windows Vista on my DAW system either. I'll stick with WinXP for the next few years at least. It's great to be finally getting work done on a stable and mature platform which isn't in a constant state of flux.

The greatest lie ever told by most platform vendors is "don't worry - all your favourite software and hardware will work on our next OS". This is hardly the case for specialist fields such as music production which makes use of non-mainstream hardware and software.

It's good to see MacOSX **finally** not feel like a work in progress Operating System. I'm sure most Tiger users are now getting quite comfortable and productive with OSX.

Although Rosetta might be an acceptable "stop gap" solution for low CPU demand, mainstream computing applications (e.g. word processing, print/web publishing applications) which are not realtime in nature, but for those of us demanding every last drop of DSP power available it's really not feasible to run an emulation layer.

Every layer of hardware abstraction wastes more and more CPU cycles. MacOSX's Classic Mode should be evidence enough of this. I can't think of many legacy MacOS music applications I've managed to get working to a functional degree MacOSX's Classic Mode.

Although some music software/hardware vendors are taking action now to accommodate MacOSX Intel it will be the smaller developers (having limited manpower, know-how and tight budgets) who may not deliver updates, etc in a timely fashion.

Consider also those long-time favourite tools which for which all updates and development have ceased due to the vendors going out of business, etc....
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Post by noisetonepause » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:39 am

jasefos wrote:It's good to see MacOSX **finally** not feel like a work in progress Operating System. I'm sure most Tiger users are now getting quite comfortable and productive with OSX.
Eh? That's how I've felt since 10.2.

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