D DAS wrote:
the statement was made for 3 reasons of comparison:
1) fascism. we (the us) have turned into a fascist regime. Fascism for one, is when corporate and state interest merge. When decisions are being made for the betterment of corporations and not the betterment of the people. One example of this is the industrial war machine. Those who profit from war. You know the list. As an american you should be outraged at what your leaders are doing in the "name of freedom" Sure the holocaust was bad, but is it any better what we are doing now like bombing civilian cities and villiages. Go tell an Iraqi women who just lost her husband and three kids to a "mis guided bomb" that her loss is nothing compared to the holocaust.
2) Global Domination. Let's see, who else had this vision, umm, I think it was Adolf Hitler. And do not say that major US corporations did not have direct links with the 3rd Riech during WW2 because they did. Corporations like GE and IBM had very nice business relationships with Hitlers army while he was extermenating people. IBM made the freakin computers that issued numbers to concentration camp detainees. And wow, these same corporations are still thriving and now have nice business relationships with our current leaders. GE fits with the above statement of the industrial war machine.
3) Fear and Lies: This is what Hitler used to play out his sick agenda and this is what our beady eyed leaders are using to play out theirs.
So my statement is not stupid nor lazy but true. Our current leadership has a lot of the same views as the 3rd reich. What are you doing about it if your such a proud american. Are you just sitting back and eating what they tell you is truth as they rape everything America stood for. Our founding fathers Mr. America are turning in their graves.
Right. And Chicken tastes like steak, you know, because they are both meat. Why bother differentiating between the two.
Meat is meat, right?
Yeah, yeah, I know. Carrots and tomatoes are vegetables, therefore they both taste the same.
I love it when people take definitions of two things that are obviously not the same and make them fit their world view.
So, tell me, let's take a country like Iran or the former Iraq under Saddam (which are, again, closer to the third reich) and tell me how they equate to the U.S.?
And, because you seem so "informed", please enlighten us on how the tensions between individual and community rights and state interests vs. corporate (or private) interests are a true indicator of a FASCIST state? Oh, I don't know, I thought that was the TYPICAL battle that all democracies who have private markets go through.
Color me crazy, but I think you've come to your conclusion first and then made your case afterword. LOL.
I love it when people think the U.S. is a fascist state. That's the most moronic thing I can think of in light of what of TRUE FASCISM really is. Look, I'm not saying that there is nothing we should worry about with regard to our/my U.S. government. Of course, there are things we should be wary of, checking them, counter-balancing government actions with our oversight and civil rights. But don't mistake the natural tensions of ANY government system (and its tendency to want to grow, centralize, answer any and all needs of the people) as indicators for what TYPE of government system it is. In this case, it is the HOW and what mechanisms any government uses to answer the questions or needs of its people that determine what kind of government it is.
Like I said, the U.S. is not a fascist state. Not even close. Er, unless you really, really, really, want to believe it minus any facts, principles, or how the mechanism of government and protection of civil rights. And in that case, I can't help you.
I would recommend, however, going over to a place like Iran to see how the other half lives. Have fun.
And to those who think that having weapons that are better than anyone else's is an indicator of some ill will or nefarious take over the world plan (which it could, of course), please remember that diplomacy requires military strength. It is a requirement.
BTW, you want bad guys? Who's been burning embassies of countries like Denmark lately? Yeah, I'd keep an eye on those lunatics who can't stand free speech before you start worrying about a particle laser gun. Chuckle.
Thanks for the debate. Its all very entertaining.