Live5 should come with a warning that it mostly doesn't work
Friendly advice...
Fix your computer. Or get a new one.captain4 wrote:this is fun, i just managed to upset every 5 user out there, but to tell the truth about the whole subject, I do still think ableton should have waited to get the kinks out of 5, my setup hasn't changed in the slightest, except for my upgrade from 4 to 5 (legit copies by the way) and for long sessions working on a project it is unreliable, in my current setup. so what I'm saying is only my opinion, and you can just disagree with me it's only what i've experienced myself, I've been a live user since V3 so I'm not just making it up, please understand that, for all it's worth Live is a fantastic product but I'm not happy with version 5.It's not going to stop me using the product but it will stop me working with 5 until it is as stable (for me) as 4 is. Try and understand I use other setups that aren't troublesome over a long period, thats all I'm saying, anywho carry on.....
No software is perfect but you have to reflect why only 1% of people are reporting problems as serious as yours. Do you think perhaps it might be YOUR SYSTEM rather than LIVE, *could it*? Food for thought...
I personally never use Live live, only as a DAW, but except for the slightly higher CPU load and a little longer startup time, it has been solid as a rock for me since I upgraded. I still have a few Live 4 files around and occasionally fire that version up, but in general a few new v5 features are enough to keep me using it.
The rumors in the beta threads about 5.2 starting up faster than 5.0.x are encouraging to me.
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Apparently 98.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.rasputin wrote:only 1% of people are reporting problems as serious as yours.
"That very perceptive of you Mr Stapleton, and rather unexpected... in a G Major"
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I only find that statement 42% true.Given a collection of data, statistics may be employed to summarize or describe the data; this use is called descriptive statistics. In addition, patterns in the data may be modeled, in a way that accounts for randomness and uncertainty in the observations, in order to draw inferences about the larger population; this use is called inferential statistics. Both of these uses may be termed applied statistics. There is also a discipline of mathematical statistics concerned with the theoretical basis of the subject.nolus wrote:Apparently 98.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.rasputin wrote:only 1% of people are reporting problems as serious as yours.
(D. Adams 1979 and 1992)
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Douglas Adams had things pretty well sussed IMO .captain4 wrote:I only find that statement 42% true.Given a collection of data, statistics may be employed to summarize or describe the data; this use is called descriptive statistics. In addition, patterns in the data may be modeled, in a way that accounts for randomness and uncertainty in the observations, in order to draw inferences about the larger population; this use is called inferential statistics. Both of these uses may be termed applied statistics. There is also a discipline of mathematical statistics concerned with the theoretical basis of the subject.nolus wrote:Apparently 98.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.rasputin wrote:only 1% of people are reporting problems as serious as yours.
(D. Adams 1979 and 1992)
"That very perceptive of you Mr Stapleton, and rather unexpected... in a G Major"
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I had major problems with LIve 5 when I bought it. I was using Live Lite 4 for a while when I bought my Trigger Finger, and it worked great. Got Live 5 upgrade and suddenly it stopped working. It would load up, but if i ever used any othe rprogram, Live 5 would disappear and not come back, but still be running in Processes... Then, after a while of that, it would not even load up visually, just in Processes.. Pissed me off royally and I thought I threw my money away. I decided to try one thing though. I moved my Plugins folder somewhere else so Live didn't see it. it loaded up and worked flawlessly. I realised it was some buggy free VSTs I downloaded from the KVR forum.
Try moving your plugins to a different folder and see what happens. Then clean up the crap you never use that might be unstable and see if that works. Good luck. Even with all the frustration at the begining, I am extremely happy with the purchase
Try moving your plugins to a different folder and see what happens. Then clean up the crap you never use that might be unstable and see if that works. Good luck. Even with all the frustration at the begining, I am extremely happy with the purchase
you only use live to play other people music one track at a time. Of course it workings for you I could get the very first daw to play back one file at a time. You is a fanboy and you have bad smeel because you make yourslef blind to facts.hambone1 wrote:I personally don't give a damn being called a 'fanboy.' And I WISH I was on Ableton's payroll!
Five works for me. It has since 5.0. I've built my entire business around it. Yes, I wish it was faster. Yes, I wish it had more features. It will. For now, I do what I can do with it.
I work to the limitation of the tools. When they're more capable, I'll do more.
As I say many times IT IS NOT BUGS. It si spiss bad performance so you can all deny so much as you like I hav ethree computer and Live play shit on all of them BUT I live with it now and pray that six can be better performance
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Radeon - FYI, my current set has 12 audio tracks, including live Impulse percussion, and 96 MIDI lighting and video tracks. And it works without a problem, even with all 108 tracks playing. I do wish the interface was quicker, though.
What's this bad 'smeel' that you get when you make yourself blind to facts?
What's this bad 'smeel' that you get when you make yourself blind to facts?
lmfaoDeadlyKungFu wrote:Radeon - I wouldn't brag about not being able to get Live running smoothly on none of 3 computers, people might think you're not very bright.
They might...
Maybes only about 56.8%. The other 14.3% might agree.
BTW, I've been running Live since 4 and never had any problems that werent to do with hardware or software limitations (that ARENT bugs). I've even got the BETA running on an intel iMac and guess what...still no problems. My god, that machines only 2 months old, imagine how it will sit ina platform that's been Native for 5 years.
just my 5 cents.
BTW, if I had every 5 cents that gets chucked around this forum, I could buy another hoody from Ableton. Please everyone, chuck some more in and I'll buy everyone them.
Yes 12 audio track at the same time? if this is true I would never book you for wedding becasue the peopels there are not there for you it is other way around.hambone1 wrote:Radeon - FYI, my current set has 12 audio tracks, including live Impulse percussion, and 96 MIDI lighting and video tracks. And it works without a problem, even with all 108 tracks playing. I do wish the interface was quicker, though.
What's this bad 'smeel' that you get when you make yourself blind to facts?
Tell me mores on your wedding dj set I am interest what you do more but expalining it all dont just say one thing go for detales.
It is me that has bad smeel