Best settings for vocals

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djc
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Best settings for vocals

Post by djc » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:55 pm

What is the best setting from the built in effects for vocals? rap and singing wise.

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Post by the shoe » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:55 pm

really hard to give you advice on this wide topic without more info. what sort of feel are yoiu after? you could use all the effects or none at all

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Post by HD1 » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:58 pm

i recommend singing into a mic, with the front-head-hole of the singer. Using the back-bottom-hole causes latency...
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Post by djc » Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:54 pm

A good sound period. I just started messing around with using the mic on the computer so it's a learning curve for me. I have been using my korg d1200 for recording for a while so things are different. Also i'm new to making tracks on the pc as well so i'm like a brand new spankin baby. Just found about the latency also for using the mic. I thought it didn't have it like midi tracks and such.

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Post by HD1 » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:22 am

are you using the front-head-hole of the singer ? otherwise the korg adds artifacts
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Post by djc » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:06 am

yes but i'm trying to get a better sound then when I used my d1200 but I still need work on it.

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Post by HD1 » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:14 am

well, so long as the back-bottom-hole is nowhere near the mic, you should place the d1200 around 8 inches from the front-head-hole of the singer. Its best if the singer hasnt been drinking, or freebasing ..... and if their wisdom teeth haven't been taken out it can cause fluctuations. to combat this you can use EQ3 , or if there is some feedback from the back-bottom-hole you should use the EQ4.
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Post by incinereight » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:42 am

ok .. i'll admit ... i've been drinking in the studio again but ....

ropey... that is the funniest shit i have read in a while.

:)

-m

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Post by djc » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:16 am

Ok, I will try it soon as I get back in town

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Post by HD1 » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:24 am

let us know how you get on, but remember that if the back-bottom-hole is open before you turn the mic on you may blow your speakers tweeters, best to open the back-bottom-hole after you tweak your sac and place the speakers at front-head-hole level
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Post by djc » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:27 pm

Its sounding good now

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Post by studio615 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:55 am

I have had GREAT success with the following:
Cheap Large Diaphram Condenser Mic (MXL57)
Motu 828mkII preamp
Spitfish Free De-Esser (digitalfishphones.com)
Blockfish Free Compressor (digitalfishphones.com)
Live's 4 band eq
Live's Reverb

I just did a demo for a band, and I used Live to record them. It worked great! This is the signal path for the vocalist. The digital fish phones plugins are absolutely excellent, and the reverb built into live is fantastic also. I set the reverb at ambience medium, set the time to approx. 600 milliseconds of decay, and about 12% mix. Really helped put the vocalist into the mix.

As far as the mic, any decent cheap large diaphram condenser mic will give you excellent results, of course it won't be like an old Neumann, but it will sound good. Use a good pre amp and you will be fine. Good luck.

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