I'd have to respectfully disagree.
you are right in mentioning the strengths of using Live as a looper.
but the weakness lies in configuring it. i really do not know if i want to invest the time it would take to really get live set up properly for this.
it would be $270 for the live upgrade from lite and $150 min for the foot pedal. and then i would have to set key commands up. and then i would have to set a midi translator up. and i have done enough to know this would not be a quick set up and forget process. i am fine with spending the money, since i am considering the RC50, but the time spend just setting it up--not even actually getting accustomed to it-- is offputting.
I know it can seem daunting at first, especially if you don't know much about midi, but honestly it is very easy, and it is "set and forget"--I haven't changed my template set or my 1010 patches in years. My guitarist partner in one of my bands just got Live, and I helped him install the program, set up his soundcard, program his 1010, and assign midi mappings to live in about 40 minutes. With Live installed and a working soundcard, all you have to do is set up one bank of the 1010--10 patches sending fixed midi cc messages. Then all you do is assign these to clip slots and record arm buttons in Live. If you wanna get the "delete" happening, installing midi ox and bomes is pretty straightforward. Once installed, you go into midi ox and select you midi interface as the input, and set up two output channels. One of these channels you select as the midi input to live. The other channel is the input to bomes. In bomes you choose whatever midi cc message you have assigned on you dedicated "delete" pedal on your 1010 to act as the delete key. That's it. then all you do is set global quantize to "bar" in Live, arm tracks and record loops.
Live could make it easier by giving us a midi mappable "delete" button inside of the program, getting rid of needing midi ox and bomes. But thats about as simple as they could make it--people use a host of controllers for Live, so setting up predefined assignments to clip slots would help anyone. Plus, the 1010 patches from the factory have a bunch of commands assigned that you need to turn off to strip it down to just one simple fixed midi cc command per pedal. Anyhow, you $420 would be infinitely better spent on a Live/1010 looping setup than an rc-50 imho, for all of the reasons I stated before. Sure hardware looping pedals are easier to loop with right out of the box, but they also have tons of limitations compared to Live, which can eventually get annoying. Cheif among these is I doubt anyone composed and produces a song on an rc-50--compose maybe, but there's no real opportunity to make a polished finished song with no control of track volumes, effect, and everything mono. With Live you can composed the pieces of a song with loops, then take these and build them into a polished song. my 2 cents...
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